Planeden Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 i only use flush mode when things die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoly Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Not sure, I know you can run 4 on a stock full version Apex and if you want to add more, you can add a VDM module. I know nothing of the Reef Angel controller. If you have synchronized sides, you could run even more than 4 (i.e., wiring up 2 pumps on the same control). Not sure why anyone would want to do that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoly Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 That's what I am doing now. Customization, really that's it. If you are happy with the random modes and the wave modes that comes with the stock controller, than you are fine. I just wanted to add different modes and the main reason is for programming flush modes and controlling what time certain modes come on. I have slow pulse currents at night, more turbid wave action during the lighted hours, with random flush modes flush 100% left and hopefully soon 100% right once the new pump gets in. The main benefit I notice is more even SPS growth (no one sided flow causing my SPS colonies lean) and better polyp extension. Plus the random modes help with detritus not settling anywhere. Sold... would controlling 6 on a Reef Angel be doable? Mainly leaning the Reef Angel way because I really like their water sensors for ATO and automatic water changes. Also their leak detector. I'm exceptionally biased, but just from a local user support base, more people will be around to help. Something I've come to terms with along the way is that I like system redundancy. Specifically, I like to have a separate control (i.e., tunze ATO, or Bubble Magus doser) do some of the heavy logic lifting, and limit the apex control of that functionality to a simple on/off. What you lose in tweakability, you make up for not having a useless ATO or Doser if your "brain" has a stroke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuxx Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 I'm exceptionally biased, but just from a local user support base, more people will be around to help. Something I've come to terms with along the way is that I like system redundancy. Specifically, I like to have a separate control (i.e., tunze ATO, or Bubble Magus doser) do some of the heavy logic lifting, and limit the apex control of that functionality to a simple on/off. What you lose in tweakability, you make up for not having a useless ATO or Doser if your "brain" has a stroke. Yeah I'm really not sold yet. Reef Angel has a pretty interesting alternative to the traditional float switch, and plays well with the Kessils. Main reasons I'm leaning that way. http://reefbuilders.com/2012/10/03/reef-angel-water-level-sensor/ Was planning to do the ATO and automatic changes using that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoly Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Consider using peristaltics for your in/out on any kind of auto water changer. The slow rate will make it very difficult to empty your tank. Take it from personal experience, ALL water level switches,no matter the variety, eventually lose resolution and fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuxx Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 Consider using peristaltics for your in/out on any kind of auto water changer. The slow rate will make it very difficult to empty your tank. Take it from personal experience, ALL water level switches,no matter the variety, eventually lose resolution and fail. Any examples? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoly Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Of failure or using peristaltics to control auto water changing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuxx Posted October 16, 2013 Author Share Posted October 16, 2013 Examples of auto water changing. I'm open to a better example. Would probably move to Apex if I can use a different system for ATO and auto water changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoly Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 The gold standard is the litermeter's. http://aquarium.bulkreefsupply.com/search?asug=&view=grid&cnt=16&w=litermeter There is an external pump module that has a pressure sensor integrated. It pulls water out of your DT at the same rate that it pulls clean water from a resevoir into your DT. I believe you can also add an ATO module, but don't quote me on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadodge Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 that's why I do my own water changes...the controller I have just turns things off and on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadodge Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 So the 1st pic is of the stand upside down. This is the waterproof sheetmetal bottom. The 2nd pic is the finish work on the frnt of the stand with the braces removed. Sent from my MB865 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 You got some mad skills Offroaddodge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planeden Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Stand looks great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuxx Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 Can't wait, really taking form now Getting kind of used to the cinder block look though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadodge Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I bet ur wife wont hv family over for Thanksgiving with it on blocks...but i bet she will like a black stand that weights about 500lbs. Sent from my MB865 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuxx Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 LOL yeah... I don't think that would work. I'd be eating peanut butter and jelly in the backyard if that was the case... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planeden Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 LOL yeah... I don't think that would work. I'd be eating peanut butter and jelly in the backyard if that was the case... the weather has been quite nice. great time for some camping. it may be worth it, depending on her family . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadodge Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Its done, satin black. Looks like powedercoat but not. Just needs the wood work done. Cant wait to see your tank setting on it, I just don't know how we are gonna lift 600lbs of tank 43" up in the air to get it on it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Nice! Got any final pics of the awesome stand Jeremy? Whoever is going to lift Offshore's tank, want to do the same with mine for a two-fer? Mine's not as big but is glass, so probably the same weight. I think I can see the volunteers lining up right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esacjack Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Timfish has a tank jack if I recall correctly. I'd start with bribery.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadodge Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 it looks pretty much like the last pic when it was just metal, but now it is black.im sure that with 6 guy or 8 we can get it into the stand. See u Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Bio)³ Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Timfish has a tank jack if I recall correctly. I'd start with bribery.. I recall using basketball size colonies of leathers and toadstools. They man and his jack are unstoppable. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadodge Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Loaded and ready to go home to the final destination. If u can believe it i loaded it by myself. I welded some pipe to some swivel casters and slid them into the ends of the tank. It rolls like a hospital bed. Sent from my MB865 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuxx Posted November 2, 2013 Author Share Posted November 2, 2013 That's a big *****! Looks awesome, thanks Jeremy :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 That thing looks sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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