Brooks Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Hey ARC! I'm itching to start another tank, but instead of just small this time, I'm going REALLY small... -10 gallons. I really like a clean look for my tanks, and don't like being able to see equipment in the display, so I was thinking about going with this Hagen Fluval Edge 6 Gallon tank. I'm betting I could transform it into a salt water tank. Would I even need a skimmer for this size tank? I would change the lighting to a bluer spectrum, and would only be doing Pipefish and Seahorses (dwarves). And for corals most likely just chalices and acans. Here is a link to the tank: http://www.marinedep...-FWAQCK-vi.html If anyone has a good idea for a tank for me please don't hesitate to tell me!! -Brooks- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robb in Austin Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Cleaning them seems to be the biggest issue I've heard about. Have you searched the nano reef forums? Oh yeah, almost forgot..... MEH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jestep Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Definitely check out nano-reef.com. If a 12 isn't too small check these out: http://www.cadlights.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=41. Great price including the light and an integrated rear chamber. If you don't want the AIO tanks, ADA and Mr Aqua make great sized rimless nano tanks that are very good quality, ADA makes the highest quality tanks I have seen. Mr Aqua can be found at marine depot. ADA you can buy from: http://www.adgshop.com/. They are located in houston, so you can pick up a tank directly if you dont wan't to ship. As far as the edge, I've heard the lighting is terrible and very difficult to upgrade. You really don't need a skimmer on tanks less than 30 or even 50 gallons from many people I've talked to. A weekly water change will provide all of the correct elements and will remove enough crap to grow SPS or anything else provided that there is enough lighting and flow in the tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooks Posted January 7, 2011 Author Share Posted January 7, 2011 Cleaning them seems to be the biggest issue I've heard about. Have you searched the nano reef forums? Oh yeah, almost forgot..... MEH! I saw the cleaning issue too. I don't think it'll be too big of a problem. I can't find very many of these anywhere. They must be new-ish or something? Also, would I even need a skimmer for 6g? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robb in Austin Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Petco at Parmer/35 has had them recently, for $99 I think. Been out ~6 months or so I think. You could probably get away with no skimmer, just need frequent WC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robb in Austin Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Oh yeah, if you want to be a real playa get a custom Elos or AGE rimless nano! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jestep Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Here's a good article on running skimmerless - http://www.nano-reef.com/articles/?article=3. I've hear of everything up to 75 SPS tanks without skimmers, provided that water changes were kept up with, or an algae scrubber is used instead of a skimmer for larger tanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 i wouldn't recommend the edge for a reef tank as it is very hard to light. check out www.nano-reef.com and they will give you alot of ideas, but imo i would look for a different option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooks Posted January 7, 2011 Author Share Posted January 7, 2011 Definitely check out nano-reef.com. If a 12 isn't too small check these out: http://www.cadlights...index&cPath=41. Great price including the light and an integrated rear chamber. If you don't want the AIO tanks, ADA and Mr Aqua make great sized rimless nano tanks that are very good quality, ADA makes the highest quality tanks I have seen. Mr Aqua can be found at marine depot. ADA you can buy from: http://www.adgshop.com/. They are located in houston, so you can pick up a tank directly if you dont wan't to ship. As far as the edge, I've heard the lighting is terrible and very difficult to upgrade. You really don't need a skimmer on tanks less than 30 or even 50 gallons from many people I've talked to. A weekly water change will provide all of the correct elements and will remove enough crap to grow SPS or anything else provided that there is enough lighting and flow in the tank. Sweet! Thanks for the links. Will mentioned the ADA tanks, but I couldn't find them so I didn't bother to keep looking! I'm going to be looking at -10 gallons for now. This is going to be on my desk, and 12 might be fine for that as far as weight goes, but I don't have too much room for that. Which is why I was looking at the 6. For the Edge, I'm wondering just how hard replacing the lighting is going to be. I'm not even sure what I would need... a LED of some sort? I don't know what else would be small enough to fit in the space provided. Petco at Parmer/35 has had them recently, for $99 I think. Been out ~6 months or so I think. You could probably get away with no skimmer, just need frequent WC. Yeah the still have 'em at Pet-Co for $99. You reminded me that I saw them there about a week ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Definitely check out nano-reef.com. If a 12 isn't too small check these out: http://www.cadlights...index&cPath=41. Great price including the light and an integrated rear chamber. If you don't want the AIO tanks, ADA and Mr Aqua make great sized rimless nano tanks that are very good quality, ADA makes the highest quality tanks I have seen. Mr Aqua can be found at marine depot. ADA you can buy from: http://www.adgshop.com/. They are located in houston, so you can pick up a tank directly if you dont wan't to ship. As far as the edge, I've heard the lighting is terrible and very difficult to upgrade. You really don't need a skimmer on tanks less than 30 or even 50 gallons from many people I've talked to. A weekly water change will provide all of the correct elements and will remove enough crap to grow SPS or anything else provided that there is enough lighting and flow in the tank. Sweet! Thanks for the links. Will mentioned the ADA tanks, but I couldn't find them so I didn't bother to keep looking! I'm going to be looking at -10 gallons for now. This is going to be on my desk, and 12 might be fine for that as far as weight goes, but I don't have too much room for that. Which is why I was looking at the 6. For the Edge, I'm wondering just how hard replacing the lighting is going to be. I'm not even sure what I would need... a LED of some sort? I don't know what else would be small enough to fit in the space provided. Petco at Parmer/35 has had them recently, for $99 I think. Been out ~6 months or so I think. You could probably get away with no skimmer, just need frequent WC. Yeah the still have 'em at Pet-Co for $99. You reminded me that I saw them there about a week ago! there have been people who replace the stock halogen with led's but the main issue is the fact that the light housing only covers a small portion of the tank, so you get really bad dark spots in the corners and in the front. they are also a real pain to clean. here are some places to get great nano tanks http://greenleafaquariums.com/glass-rimless-aquariums.html http://www.picoaquariums.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooks Posted January 7, 2011 Author Share Posted January 7, 2011 Definitely check out nano-reef.com. If a 12 isn't too small check these out: http://www.cadlights...index&cPath=41. Great price including the light and an integrated rear chamber. If you don't want the AIO tanks, ADA and Mr Aqua make great sized rimless nano tanks that are very good quality, ADA makes the highest quality tanks I have seen. Mr Aqua can be found at marine depot. ADA you can buy from: http://www.adgshop.com/. They are located in houston, so you can pick up a tank directly if you dont wan't to ship. As far as the edge, I've heard the lighting is terrible and very difficult to upgrade. You really don't need a skimmer on tanks less than 30 or even 50 gallons from many people I've talked to. A weekly water change will provide all of the correct elements and will remove enough crap to grow SPS or anything else provided that there is enough lighting and flow in the tank. Sweet! Thanks for the links. Will mentioned the ADA tanks, but I couldn't find them so I didn't bother to keep looking! I'm going to be looking at -10 gallons for now. This is going to be on my desk, and 12 might be fine for that as far as weight goes, but I don't have too much room for that. Which is why I was looking at the 6. For the Edge, I'm wondering just how hard replacing the lighting is going to be. I'm not even sure what I would need... a LED of some sort? I don't know what else would be small enough to fit in the space provided. Petco at Parmer/35 has had them recently, for $99 I think. Been out ~6 months or so I think. You could probably get away with no skimmer, just need frequent WC. Yeah the still have 'em at Pet-Co for $99. You reminded me that I saw them there about a week ago! there have been people who replace the stock halogen with led's but the main issue is the fact that the light housing only covers a small portion of the tank, so you get really bad dark spots in the corners and in the front. they are also a real pain to clean. here are some places to get great nano tanks http://greenleafaqua...-aquariums.html http://www.picoaquariums.com/ REALLY like those PicO's. http://www.picoaquariums.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=172&category_id=45&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1 That one especially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooks Posted January 7, 2011 Author Share Posted January 7, 2011 Also... can someone recommend some lighting? What would be best over something like this?: http://www.picoaquariums.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=172&category_id=45&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 reebuilders seemed to like them. i think it would be a pretty cool tank to have. if you still wanted to do pipefish and dwarfs you could do a sea grass and gorgonia bed. you could light it with led or a 70w mh as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooks Posted January 7, 2011 Author Share Posted January 7, 2011 http://www.picoaquariums.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=169&category_id=45&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1 There we go. Looks perfect! Just enough room for some beautiful Acans, Chalices, Pipefish, and a rock! Going to go with maybe a PAR38 for the lighting? Small, and easy to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 sounds like a plan and do the 7 bulb par 38th http://www.rapidled.com/servlet/the-101/7-LED-PAR38-Bulb/Detail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhart032 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 why not a 10g biocube? you know they make skimmers and upgrades and they are made for salt.i had a 6g pico it was a cool little tank. i did the halogen to 75mh home depot mod for it. i kept shrooms and had a torch in it and a little crab and a goby in it till i broke it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooks Posted January 7, 2011 Author Share Posted January 7, 2011 why not a 10g biocube? you know they make skimmers and upgrades and they are made for salt. Not a fan of the look of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhart032 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 sorry it was a 3 gallon( i edited my last post) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhart032 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 ive seen the edge, the pet store by my house them, they look pretty diff to mod to salt i thought about that for my bedroom. then i thought i would do a freshwater planted tank. never did it. but i still want a frsh water planted tank they look so cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 BROOOOOKS!!!! Remember if you get dwarf seahorses, they eat ONLY BBS...you'll be hatching on a daily basis like me.... WELCOME BACK!!! or thought of.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaJMasta Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 The Pico branded aquariums are quite nice, and they come with the pump and equipment to get the back section running. Using a fluval edge has certainly been done, but to get coral-supporting lighting in that hood you really need an LED setup. I believe nanocustoms sells a DIY led retrofit for the edge.... I've also seen a fluval edge NPS tank which looks absolutely awesome. The key to going skimmerless is frequent water changes (at least once a week) and not overfeeding. I've actually got a 7.5G Mr. Aqua tank (from marine depot?) which is a nice sleek rimless option - though it is not an AIO. The nice thing about this tank is that it's 18" long so you can use some normal sized fixtures and there's space in the back for a HOB filter converted to a fuge or even a HOB skimmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooks Posted January 7, 2011 Author Share Posted January 7, 2011 BROOOOOKS!!!! Remember if you get dwarf seahorses, they eat ONLY BBS...you'll be hatching on a daily basis like me.... WELCOME BACK!!! or thought of.... Hatching Baby Brines O_O? Or hatching baby seahorses?! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eel Keeper Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 ive seen the edge, the pet store by my house them, they look pretty diff to mod to salt i thought about that for my bedroom. then i thought i would do a freshwater planted tank. never did it. but i still want a frsh water planted tank they look so cool. I've always wanted a 125 gal freshwater planted with a school of about 20 cardnial tetras, and a nice good size piece of driftwood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhart032 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 What is that little nano at RCA by the main reef display in the back? i think its cheap and comes with equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strange_screams Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 DROOL, that would be so cute, those edge tanks are beautiful, except for there size, they even have a little heater designed for it. I dont know about cleaning but the biggest complaint I've had on it is that the stock halogen has to be replaced so often because of water splashing. And there right about nano-reef, they have so much info for gal 1 to 29, and no, according to them you don't have to keep a skimmer, i didn't have one for 2 years on my 10g and never reached more then 5 ppm on nitrates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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