Timfish Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Thought I'd pass along this experiment treating STN on an Acropora echinata frag caused by contact with Anthellia polyps: http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/Timfishone/media/Acropora/In%20tank%20STN%20treatment%20A%20echinata%20TFC%20March%202015_zpsayhhxeum.jpeg.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Nice! I'll give this a try Tim the next time I experience STN. I've always just superglued it and I'd say it stopped the STN about 75% of the time when the offending cause of the STN has been removed/remedied. I have Lugol's at home so I'll give it a try just to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robb in Austin Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Can we get the pics individually? Christ that's hard to read/follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timfish Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 Quit whining Robb! Ty didn't have a problem with it. Give me a day and I'll see what I can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Actually, it was quite hard to read but my whining threshold wasn't reached yet... apparently its much higher than Robb's. I'd change the text color if possible to something that contrasts the background better and since you're posting in photobucket anyways, just click on the "image" link and copy that into your post and it'll just show it on ARC instead of sending us to photobucket. Like this: Nevermind, I forgot photobucket stopped just hosting the picture and now redirects you even if you place the image in the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reburn Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I actually found it hard to read and look at too. But I'm intrested in the results and my whining threshold hadn't been reached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bpb Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Three drops and 16 ml water mixed in a syringe and target applied in tank or was this out of tank? I assume flow was temporarily cut? If so for how long? What is the total tank volume? I've battled stn in acropora for a couple months now and it's nearly wiped me out entirely. Have a few that are still in there but they're still dropping one by one even as I type this. Be interested to try something new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timfish Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 But it was easy to read on my 55" monitor. I'll darken the blue background I used under the text blocks. Bpb, it was in tank, water flow was not turned off but I don't use high flow rates and the frag is in a calm corner as well. It was also treated three consecutive days as well if that was not clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timfish Posted April 5, 2015 Author Share Posted April 5, 2015 Is this easier to read? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoly Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 That's amazing ! Once I start to get recession from the base like that, I've never had any success short of fragging or sometimes supergluing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timfish Posted April 6, 2015 Author Share Posted April 6, 2015 It's encouraging but this is still just a single example and the iodine may not have had much effect. Just removing the Anthelia and flushing the dead tissue off may have been all that was needed. It'll take more examples under different conditions to really tell if it's a viable treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoly Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Even still, just the fact that you reversed tissue loss is great. Perhaps if its something systemic like an swing (alk, temp, salinity) or a rapid phosphate strip, it's not as easy to reverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timfish Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 Here's an update: And if anyone is interested here's a quick video showing the water flow: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Any update on this Tim? Has the Lugols reversed the STN and the flesh grown back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timfish Posted May 2, 2015 Author Share Posted May 2, 2015 Here's a picture from Monday: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Nice! I can't tell from the picture but is the flesh starting to grow back over the parts that died? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timfish Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 Growth rate with both the Acropora tortusa and A. echinata in this system is very slow, maybe 1/16" a month compared to A. valida and Seratipora histrex (Birdsnest) in this system. There is a slight regrowth but I would consider it insignificant. Since the nitrates are so low in this system (< 0.25 mg/l) compared to my other tank that has much, much better growth I'm uping the amount of food I'm feeding to the fish. Since I've only very rarely used suppliments or dosing on this system I've also added an autofeeder dumping aragamight daily about 6 weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 At least it's not STNing anymore. Keep us posted on the results of the echinata. I had one piece started STNing in an area, oddly because some sand/detritus fell on it and instead of pulling out the superglue and clippers like I usually do, I dipped it in a diluted Lugols solution just to give it a try. I'll post results/pictures when I have a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bpb Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 My battles with stn are well documented. One thing I may have left out is that of all my acropora, the Hawkins is the happiest. Furthermore, it's the only acro I have that has successfully grown back over dead stn tissue. It's started to stn twice, has made it about 1 cm, and then it stops and grows back over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+olaggie01 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I'm in the similar boat as your client Tim. Very low nitrates. What is aragamight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 My battles with stn are well documented. One thing I may have left out is that of all my acropora, the Hawkins is the happiest. Furthermore, it's the only acro I have that has successfully grown back over dead stn tissue. It's started to stn twice, has made it about 1 cm, and then it stops and grows back overBpb, just for feedback, during my STN adventure after my upgrade, my hawkins echinata and my setosa were the most gorgeous I has ever seen them. I don't know if it was them super high salinity (1.032) or super high nitrates (50+ppm) but they were stunning... while everything else was STNING slowly in my tank. That's why I wonder if you need to be triple-checked on your parameters if you're still having problems with STN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoly Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 And somehow I managed to kill mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jolt Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I believe doctor FrankenTy would have said "It is ALIIIIIIVE!!!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I believe doctor FrankenTy would have said "It is ALIIIIIIVE!!!!!"I only have a bachelors... it's Mr. FrankenTy. [emoji22] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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