mhart032

Thanks, I agree on the lettering. I also realized a union on the return up to the tank.might be in order in case I need to work on the manifold might be a good idea.

Wavs came in this weekend, the second EB832 came in as well, I have 2 wav pumps and 2 dos that I do t want power bricks for so the pm1 or eb832 makes sense as I'm one short. I don't really need the outlets, but eh they want 150 for the Apex pm1 or 250 for the eb832 for me that's a no brainier 8 more switchable Apex outlets for 100 bucks who wouldn't do that? I got some plumbing glued and some that I just finished dry fitting and think it's ready to glue, I got the fuge section back too so I was able to dry plum it as well. I still have the emergency drain, but not to worried about that I'll find a way to run it out of the way. Anyway here is a pic.

It will be quick this time, have 40lbs of rock to seed the tank with.. b/t you Ty I should have it all filled up in no time..

Such nice stuff. If the big tank was ready id take it all!

I worked on the plumbing a little bit in between calls and work garbage ( im not sure why people don't understand im in the middle of a tank build, and working from home really means in not inserted in work stuff) anyway, The 4.5 gal topoff tank AKA the fuge is still at the glass place being drilled, supposed to be done by tomorrow so i can plumb the fuge in and make sure my inlet on the fuge will be short enough for how it was drilled. i dont have a ton of space there to plumb it so it will be interesting. the return out from the fuge will just come across the fuge and empty out into the skimmer section so the filter socks can be utilized. Im actually thinking about the roller mat for this application as i really dislike messing with socks. I need to plumb the emergency section, but to concerned with that, i had to order a couple more of the red sea connections to have a couple spares and plumb in the emergency section. still a ton to do, but after the plumbing it should go pretty quickly.

It does need some support either to the back wall or the top, its pretty heavy.

i worked on the plumbing tonight and i got most of the return dry fitted, i used spears everything ( thank goodness i run a chemical company my supplier gave me everything i needed at no cost, otherwise the plumbing might have been the most expensive part ) once everything gets glued it should all be equal spacing kind of looks like poop right now, i left room for 2 reactors and either Zeo or bio pellets still weighing out the options. if anyone has any input on the either it would be helpful. anyway here a pic of the return section dry fitted.

I picked up all the rest of the plumbing today, plan to start on the plumbing tomorrow evening, I also went a head and picked up 2 Neptune wav Pumps for the back wall for some different flow directions with the gyres. Still gathering the rest of the equipment and things I want to do with the tank. But it should start coming together soon.

I officially stole it! thank goodness i don't have a tank that big lol. It wasn't hard to get off, but its stuck on there for sure.

im for sure going to have the steal this idea, i cant get over how nice it looks its seems to give so much more space to the look of the tank. of course the aquascaping does help with that. Nice job.

Did you remove the black vinyl backing on the rear glass? I really like the look of the back glass clear with the overflow section black.

I ordered the the jeboa 12000 at 3100gph it should take care of the manifolds and return. I really only need 1350 back to the display that leaves the remaining to power the 2 reactors and feed the fuge unless I plum the fuge off the overflow. I ordered 6 spears gate vales today and a length of scheduled 80 and the ts and elbows 90s and the unions for the plumbing. I drilled the 4.5gal ato for the fuge section, still figuring out how I want to plumb it in. I know I do not want to add anymore pumps, just the skimmer and return.

If it we're me with all the issues you have had with the classic, I'd put all non essential power outlets on the eb8 and keep the essential equipment on the eb832. I plan for my probes to go into the skimmer section and dose everything in the over flow section, so the turbulence can mix the product and the filter socks and take any of the solids out should there be any.

The skimmer pump is a Jacod airstar 1200 same as the jaebo 6000 I have read they are very good pumps as well. What version are you using on that tank? The price is good too.

The maxspects came in yesterday, as well as the pump controller for the skimmer, I haven't starting really building it yet, I'm still thinking about the plumbing and the return pump, I've been looking at all the DC pumps initially the maxspects 9k was a choice, but the reviews are terrible, so was thinking the Cor 20 had some good options, but the reviews are not any better. Anyone have any suggestions on return pump? I'm thinking at least 2000gph to feed the manifold with the reactors and all, I don't want to short change the display on turnover.

It's very easy to setup, and tweak. Congrats! You will love it.

The ir sensor won't stick like the float switches.

You can use most of legacy modules on the Apex as well. It's a big investment but in my eyes completely worth it. When building the 20gal I was thinking of just using the classic, but I'm really glad I made the investment on the new one.

If you use the the breakout box with the optical IR to kill the pumps on the apex to solve the overflow issue. vise versa use a float sensor in reverse extract the used saltwater when it closes it will kill the pump and the the second float to fill then tank back up from the new salt container, you can set the top float sensor on a delay in the apex, to insure you are not extracting the new water. take out from your overflow chamber in the sump and refill into the return section, watch how long it takes the first couple times, then set a feed mode to kill the skimmer and return pump if needed. I have put some thought into this, a few years ago after setting up the DIY ATO they used to sell backwards on the breakout box and watching the ATO not stop when the switch was closed. the IR would just be insure the tank doesn't overflow. its possible to to this in reverse with an ATO like the Tunze 3155. I thought about the DOS but i just cant see that pump keeping up with refilling 20-30 gals in a timely manor.

Ill have to give that a look, Thanks!

I am into that for sure. Do you have any info on that? I've read several post where the Apex wasn't ready yet. But I'd love to do that.

So the 20gal waterbox either did the trick and made me want to be a reefer again, OR pissed me off and now i have to go bigger. the .2 to .3 alk swings were way to difficult to keep sps in, besides i had WAY to much equipment for a 20gal lol . Ive bought a used red sea reefer 450 for a fraction of the price its worth ( Thanks again By eddius-maximus ) I picked up the tank last week and been working on it a little at a time to get it ready. Im taking all my equipment from the waterbox with exceptions to the MP10s the skimmer and the other nano size equipment. So far i have the tank, stand, sump im pretty impressed with the red sea tanks, so much better then there umm there attempts several years ago with acrylic systems. i bought a ATB 840 2.0 skimmer from Eddie when i picked up the tank with the DC motor this thing is a beast and prob over kill, but i got a great price on it too. I plan to do a manifold system with sch 80 plumbing everything plumbed in with at least 2 reactors but room for 2 more additions for later down the road. i have had the 4.5gal ATO drilled for bulkheads to make a fuge, going to plumb it in from the overflow so i can eliminate the need for more pump in that area. I dont expect a ton of flow through it. I have bought 110lbs more rock with the 40lbs i have it the waterbox i should be able to do some pretty decent scaping, for lighting i have 3 radion XR15 G4 pros already with 2 new in the box and 1 over the waterbox, I have a NIB AI Prime i will use for the fuge light. I bought 2 new Maxspect gyre FX250s for super cheap from another reefer that i will be using for flow in the display, Im not to sure on the return pump yet, but i like the idea of the maxspect, but i do like the Neptune and vectra pumps as well. So far everything is cleaned just waiting to decide on a few other ideas. still need to decide on a system weather it be 2 part or Tritan, the Tritan intrigues me as id like to be as ULM as i can. So far I have the following 92Gal tank and Stand 20Gal sump 5Gal fuge Apex with 2 dos dossers and reservoirs, WXM module, PM1 and ALDS, AFS ATB 840 2.0 Skimmer With DC Airstar Dc pump 2X Maxspect Gyre 250s Alkatronic Tunze 3155 ATO 150lbs rock 110lbs dry 100lbs pink Fuji sand 3X Radion xr15w G4 Pros W/ mount systems. Here are some pics. Before i cleaned it up. Here is the after

I bought 2 maxspect gyre 250s from another reefer, i have roughly 330.00 in both of them, i was looking at the Icecap apex modules. is this a worthy upgrade? i do love connecting things to the apex but seems a little messy with the gyres. any advice?

If the router rebooted it might have jumped to a different local ip address. You can find that on the fusion under settings and network. but it seems things are working via the dashboard. so might just be the cable, i had a issue kind of like that before on my older tank a few years ago when the classic wasn't classic lol. Apex replaced the EB8 well Mark Callahan got it replaced for me as he got it for me. but i think it got wet, or moisture in it. but i think only 2 outlets worked.

the ALDS might need to be setup via the dashboard under modules as well.