migs Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I have a well established 57 g and I am look for ideas for my next fish... looking for something rare and unique. I currently hava a clown fish, a yellow assesor, a purple firefish, and a red scooter blenny... the tank has shrimp, lps, sps, and clams... and ideas or suggestions are welcomed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cMidd Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 dimensions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migs Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 L 36 x W 18x H 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinB Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Filefish? Blue spot jaw fish? Garden eels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gig 'em @ NDstructible Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 +1 on the blue spot jawfish, those are awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migs Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 any swimming fish? add some activity to the tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gig 'em @ NDstructible Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) How about this? http://www.liveaquar...3+3&ddid=150829 Porter's Angelfish are cool and pretty hard to come by. Edited April 14, 2012 by Gig 'em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migs Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 ouch.... i wish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gig 'em @ NDstructible Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 any kind of dwarf angel would be a good addition in my opinion. Or maybe even some anthias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cMidd Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Dwarf Angela for sure. Maybe some smaller fairy wrasses? My .02 anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migs Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 are dwarf angels reef safe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gig 'em @ NDstructible Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 yes, I had a flame angel in my 135 and never had a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizardx322 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Fat head anthias!!!! Haha I got 3 right now rca should have 1 last I saw Or you can get fancy and get a borobonias anthias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesreyn Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) yes, I had a flame angel in my 135 and never had a problem That is misleading information. Just because your Flame Angel didn't nip on anything doesn't mean the next one won't. It is really hit or miss on whether they will nip on corals or not. My Coral Beauty nips on my SPS and LPS. Edited April 14, 2012 by wesreyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gig 'em @ NDstructible Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 yeah the angel would occasionally pick at algae around corals and sometimes at a coral, but it never seemed to do it with much intent, more like curiosity or impulse, never enough to cause any visual damage to any of my corals. overall I still think it's reef safe. Not like a trigger or anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I'd go with a Golden Angel. I have one and I love watching him. They have a different shape than other centropyge angels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timfish Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 A Peppermint Angel? http://glassbox-design.com/2008/diversity-of-form-peppermint-angel-video/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timfish Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 With regards to dwarf angels being reef safe I've talked to a couple of individuals over the years that pretty clearly had dwarf angels that ate corals. I've also seen a Coral Beauty that systematically was taking out the other fish in a 140 reef system. My own experiences has been they are excellent additions to reef systems and I usually will put two to four different species together in a tank. I have on one occasion seen a Coral Beauty eat a damaged Frogspawn polyp, it was in the tank at least a couple of years prior to this event and it did not eat any of the healthy polyps then and is still in the system and is quite well behaved (this behaviour is arguably benificial as it's reducing the possibility of a damaged polyp becoming diseased and infecting the polyps around it). Many times I've had clients in concern point to dwarfs behavior of picking at the surface of a coral but when closely observed what was actually happening was it was picking at stuff on the surface of the coral and not actually eating the coral, after the fish swam off there was no discernable damage to the coral. The fact the fish swam off after one or two "nibbles" also indicates it was not eating the coral as it would have stayed in place and kept ripping off pieces of the coral. The problems I have run into is once a dwarf angel or group of angels gets established it is impossible to add an additional one. As they are sequential hermaphrodites if two of the same species are added a pair is certain to develop and if there were any other species added the pair will most likely try to take them out, this has happened to me in very big tanks of many hundreds of gallons. And as always you can get a very aggressive one that doesn't want to share it's tank with anybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Grog Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I've only had my coral beauty for a few weeks and it nibbles and nips at everything. It is always on the prowl. So far it has not munched on the gorgs or zoas but that behavior would not come as a surprise to me. It demolished the algae in my tank, macro and the little bit of hair, in a week. It does get in between this and that, so what Tim was saying makes sense to me. A munched coral wouldn't be shocking to me if I was being skimpy on food. Can't speak for all coral beauties but this one seems always hungry. So far, the coral beauty has not bothered the clowns and the clowns have not bothered the coral beauty, they ignore each other. The one thing the coral beauty picks on is the decorator crab, but then again it has glued algae to itself so it is kind of his own fault. Overall, I'm liking mine so far. It is a swimmer and goes in all the nooks and crannies between the rocks. It is a graceful fish with pretty colors and brought some needed movement to the tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannerfish Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 I love any fish that adds activity to the tank mostly. I like gobies and stuff too as long as they don't create a dust storm. What I'm doing with my 125 is getting several little different colored damsels that aren't too aggressive and putting them in there, along with my "show piece"fish that us the only large one in the tank. theres also a black finned shrimp goby, six line wrasse, a well behaved coral beauty, and I think a strawberry-something goby? I forgot what the name was, maybe phamily can remind me lol. I like the activity of all the little fish interacting with each other.... If it were mine I'd prob try an eel of some sort, or some of the beautiful wrasses. They have a pretty nice selection of wrasses in austin. I saw some real cute boxfish last time I was there, but they're supposedly not invertebrate-safe...i almost bought a heni. Singularis butterflyfish that day too, I had never seen one in person, he was so beautiful and unusual! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madsalt Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 I just added a flame angel and I have to say it looks absolutley gorgeous in the tank. my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesL Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 How about this? http://www.liveaquar...3+3&ddid=150829 Porter's Angelfish are cool and pretty hard to come by. Did you mean Potter's Angelfish? If so, yes they are really different in coloring ... Aqua-Dome has them in stock frequently. I have always wanted one, but had a clam in my tank and did not want to risk it. Now that I am clamm-less, I think they are high on my list again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All WYSIWYG Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 I've tried 2 flame angels and both of them munched on acans and any montipora in the tank. I'm 110% positive that it was eating coral and not just picking around it. The one I recently pulled out of my tank ate a hole in a large colony of acans and alomst ate entire acan frags that I have too. It picked on my montiporas so much they are barely starting to polyp out again and the fish has been out since friday. I really wanted this to work but now I'm on my second one....probably going to give up. Maybe my tank is like an irrestibile buffet for them, I'm not sure. I do have a coral beauty that is perfectly behaved, and I've had a swallow tail angel and bellus angel that didn't pick on anything either. Luck of the draw really. I would suggest an eel for something different. Snowflake, zebra, and dwarf eels are considered fish and coral safe by most people. I have a huge zebra eel in my reef tank and its always a conversation piece to say the least. At first I would have never considered because I had a few shrimp and crabs in the tank. After thinking about it more I decided that a 2' long eel was waaaay cooler than a couple of shrimps. Not having a few shrimps opened me up to having more fish that I wouldn't consider before, like a harlequin tusk for example. I wouldn't suggest a 2' eel for a 57 gallon but snowflakes for example come in pretty small and the dwarf eels are really small, so small that they are invert safe too. I keep a pair of them in a 55 gallon with a pair of fire shrimp and a CB shrimp with no worries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gig 'em @ NDstructible Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Oh yeah I definitely meant Potters, thanks JamesL, my mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gig 'em @ NDstructible Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 I've tried 2 flame angels and both of them munched on acans and any montipora in the tank. I'm 110% positive that it was eating coral and not just picking around it. The one I recently pulled out of my tank ate a hole in a large colony of acans and alomst ate entire acan frags that I have too. It picked on my montiporas so much they are barely starting to polyp out again and the fish has been out since friday. I really wanted this to work but now I'm on my second one....probably going to give up. Maybe my tank is like an irrestibile buffet for them, I'm not sure. I do have a coral beauty that is perfectly behaved, and I've had a swallow tail angel and bellus angel that didn't pick on anything either. Luck of the draw really. I would suggest an eel for something different. Snowflake, zebra, and dwarf eels are considered fish and coral safe by most people. I have a huge zebra eel in my reef tank and its always a conversation piece to say the least. At first I would have never considered because I had a few shrimp and crabs in the tank. After thinking about it more I decided that a 2' long eel was waaaay cooler than a couple of shrimps. Not having a few shrimps opened me up to having more fish that I wouldn't consider before, like a harlequin tusk for example. I wouldn't suggest a 2' eel for a 57 gallon but snowflakes for example come in pretty small and the dwarf eels are really small, so small that they are invert safe too. I keep a pair of them in a 55 gallon with a pair of fire shrimp and a CB shrimp with no worries. I agree that eels are pretty cool, but you have to make sure your aquarium is adapted for them since they like to try and explore the rest of your room by escaping through the top of the tank. I built a plexiglass barrier for the top of my tank for my snowflake a few years ago and it went well for a while. Eventually it got too big and too aggressive to the point I just traded it in. I've always wanted a ghost ribbon eel, they seem really cool and reef safe. RCA sells them occasionally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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