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I'll take them

Thanks! I'm starting to get excited about it. I hope the learning curve isn't too steep for the time I can allot. Looks like it's going to be really nice though. Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

That cleaned up nice. Looks like a good plan! Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Y'all are a bunch of enablers Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

I kept seahorses for many years a while back. What kind do you have? The set up you described sounds great so far. I'm intrigued by the idea of having a grow out chamber in the sump. What do you mean by low maintenance? As in less water changes or less equipment to deal with? Can you explain more what you're looking for?

Thanks for the feedback. That's useful to know. I haven't had a chance to look into it yet.

I finally decided to send the Apex up to my internal tech support and got this report: (tl;dr The head unit should be replaced, so I need to decide whether it's worth it to buy another of the same used, or upgrade to the new one) Able to update firmware just fine. Not able to update pages.Followed all of the ceremonious precautions: Disabled AV, Disabled firewall, hardwired network,adjacent on same network switch (`traceroute apex` would show zero intermediary hops),deactivated all other network adapters, Safe Mode w/ Networking, ran Flash Utility as Administrator,following the firmware update instructions even reinstalled the prescribed Microsoft .Net Framework 3.5.No matter what, just cannot get the update pages to succeed. Each time I try I would get one of 4possible outcomes: (500) Internal Server Error, (413) Error, Network timeout, or (about 1/30 chance) a single file `aihost.bin` would successfully upload but would receive an error for the following `aihydra.bin`The following examples pretty much resemble what was reported here:https://forum.neptunesystems.com/showthread.php?5433-Apex-Failure-Where-do-I-go-from-here&p=35219&viewfull=1#post35219(a few comments later there is a "me too" with a disappointing "even had a guy from neptune take a look and he could't figure it out. ")Here are some examples of the result output:=====Uploading file: aihost.bin...Operation failed with the following error information:The remote server returned an error: (413) Error.====Uploading file: aihost.bin...SuccessUploading file: aihydra.bin...Operation failed with the following error information:The remote server returned an error: (413) Error.====Uploading file: aihost.bin...Operation failed with the following error information:The remote server returned an error: (500) Internal Server Error.====Uploading file: aihost.bin...Operation failed with the following error information:The remote server returned an error: (413) Error.====I had a thought that if it takes 30 attempts to get one file to successfully update then maybe I can manipulate the firmware`www` directory to contain only 1 file at a time and painstakingly get all 57 files uploaded. But that didn't workas I couldn't get the next `aihydra.bin` to upload. Just in case it is a clue, `aihydra.bin` is 12KB whereas `aihost.bin` was 6KBso if there were a storage defect (flash storage degrade?) maybe the device struggles to find even a small usable chunk.Able to telnet into Controller. Followed advice from https://forum.neptunesystems.com/showthread.php?3673-Webpages-update-failed-on-high-js-error-413to delete log files as a possible solution to a 413 error.Purging logs using `logdel` as well as `del logs/<logname>` worked forremoving some but eventually no longer had any effect. Some logs simply couldn'tbe deleted. Further suggesting a filesystem/storage problem. `dir` command shows sufficient free space to accommodate all pages (which should overwrite instead of duplicate anyway)`dir` command at the shell root would sometimes show duplicate filenamesat different timestamps and sizes like 3 separate `syslog.txt` and `aihost.bin`differing by days or minutes. Usually one of them would be 0 bytes. The limitedshell capability doesn't make directory structure clear but presumably these were allcontents of the same directory. As such it would be baffling that there could existfiles of the same name within the same directory. Further evidence of a filesystem/storage problem.As stated in this posting https://forum.neptunesystems.com/showthread.php?23229-Web-Pages-update-failSometimes additional strange things were listed like `aihost.bin Directory` with anabsurd filesize. Couldn't delete any of the files. As stated in the above referenced forum, maybe this is something that can be fixed remotely.Tried flashing prior versions of firmware + pages but same problem occurs. One would wonder how a firmware update can succeed and pages fail, but I presume thatthey have different storage mechanisms (EEPROM vs Flash).Anyone know of super secret commands you can issue over telnet to reformat the Controller's filesystem?

Are you a premium member? I seem to remember the ability to edit posts might pass after a certain amount of time if you're not. I can't find anything about it anymore though, so maybe I'm making it up?

Some more random pictures. Of course I decided to take them after feeding the tank 🤦‍♀️

How's everything going with your tank?

Did you just turn off all the pumps or do you have a top down viewer?

Very nice! That's a great picture of the acans. Sucks about the fish though.

Tank is still doing fantastic. Seeing some really obvious, good growth on all my latest coral additions. Jolt has the good stuff guys! Slowly starting to get my phosphates down and I've been able to keep the alk steady. I've been wanting to post a par map with my readings but these fts will have to do for now.

That meteor shower looks great!

Sounds like it's going to be a great build. I'm glad you got roped back in!

I think this is puzzling. I had turned off my 2 return pumps through fusion to see if it was working last night. It didn't work and I got distracted, so I left it as is and went about my night. Today I go to fiddle with it and when I unplug the display from the head unit, the 2 return pumps shut off. Plugged the display back in and they turn back on. I hope a reset and update does the trick.

I can change things through the fusion dashboard, as if everything is working fine. As far as accessing it through the local network, I can't get in. I always used to be able to and I know what the password is, but I can't get in anymore. I'm planning on doing a factory reset this evening and seeing if I can get it updated. I appreciate the ideas!

Good call on the cable. I'll try that first. I don't have another energy bar. I wonder if the club still has an extra to loan out?

Still trying to diagnose the problem with my Apex classic. My display is broken, I know that. I can now reach the Apex through fusion and it acts like everything's working, but when I go to control an outlet nothing happens. I'm still using the eb8 to power my 2 return pumps. Can it supply power but not have any logic control? I have an ALD connected to the eb8 and that doesn't work. Any thoughts on what to try next?

Interesting. I've heard of the rock leaching phosphates. I'm still adding gfo for now, hoping to see results with that. My make up water tested 0.

That's a good idea. Just in case it's not done cycling.

That'll be a good place to start. Make sure it's finished cycling. See what your phosphates are.

Do you have any corals in the tank? I wonder if you could run a bunch of carbon and gfo and leave the lights off? And manually remove as much as possible. Your tang will hopefully help a bunch too. What kind of equipment are you running on it? Have you tested your parameters since you got back?

Welcome to the club! Tell us about your tank!

I'm going to go against the grain here and say I run a simple system and didn't like having a ups and the space it took up. I use 2 battery powered air pumps now instead, one for the display and one for the sump. And the sump one gets split into 2 tubes because my sump settles into 2 separate areas when the return pumps are off. Anyway, those plug in and when the power goes off they kick right on. Had one run a full week on 2 D batteries once. So in a power outage I lose my lights and heating/cooling, but assuming the temp doesn't get crazy, nothing will die. Just another idea. The pumps were about $6 on Amazon.