(Bio)³ Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Still waiting on Randy to reply to my email from yesterday to see if my solution is right. Curious to see how he rewired funkness's driver, wish a quick cell phone pic woulda got snapped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juiceman Posted November 16, 2012 Author Share Posted November 16, 2012 Ok this is what I'm looking at. The wire coming from the box has 2 purple wires a one yellow. What numbers should they be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Bio)³ Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 haha why do you have two purples you should have purple yellow green. see the pic of my driver? it says yellow is 10 v purple is 10v and green is ground. Are you sure you dont have green purple and yellow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Bio)³ Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 The purple should go to solid orange on A format. The green to solid green on A format. The yellow to orange/white on A format. Ignore the numbers and use the A or B format its color coded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juiceman Posted November 16, 2012 Author Share Posted November 16, 2012 Ok, on closer inspection, the wires are grey, purple, and yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Bio)³ Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 does your driver say on the label it has a grey wire? or does it say green? Either way the grey is going to be the green I would think. The Chinese systems I have messed with extensively always used black or grey as the ground for some dumb reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juiceman Posted November 16, 2012 Author Share Posted November 16, 2012 No label. I put yellow at 8, purple at 7, and grey to 3 based on the colors of the cat5 cable. No go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Bio)³ Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 your not reading your keystone jack right.... ignore the numbers and use A or B format (apex needs A) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juiceman Posted November 16, 2012 Author Share Posted November 16, 2012 The colors don't match. Look at pics on page 4. You gotta remember I have no clue what I'm doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Bio)³ Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 should be something like 6,3,5 if your insisting on using those numbers which isnt a good way to do this. 5 is yellow 6 is puple 3 is green Really need to use A B format thats why its printing on the keystone jack.... the numbers arent right depending on what format your in its just the location across the front of the pin..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Bio)³ Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 pm me your number rory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Bio)³ Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 The colors don't match. Look at pics on page 4. You gotta remember I have no clue what I'm doing. Yes I had no clue either at 3 PM yesterday, everything I know at this point and am able to do I used a 9v battery and did hard tests then applied that across websites that taught me the jack properties. Wasnt fun at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Bio)³ Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Maybe people just dont get what I mean A or B format. Look at the jack or pics on pag4 you notice it says A and B at the back edge where wires feed in. A on top B on bottom, then we have solid squares and half squares indicating wire coloring of those formats. move the driver wires into correct color formats it makes sense in my head but one thing I've learned is I dont think like others apparently cause people keep telling me I think weird and too confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Bio)³ Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Also I will say that after playing with these drivers and dimming them I can see myself in the future ripping the BML driver out and putting a meanwell in. I dont enjoy the fact that 1 when there is no signal it is at 100% on and with 10% signal it is on 10%. Meanwell is opposite if it is 100% on then there is 100% signal or 10V signal if it is off there is no signal... With this type of driver I will have to dim my variable speed to take it to 10% then I have to turn the outlet off to kill all light. A meanwell you can leave the outlet alone and control all light with just the variable speed. I might see if its possible to just buy the light rail with no driver for less and put my own driver with it. I like the light style and all but this driver i dont like. true story :/ might be a deal breaker for me on a bigger tank. outlets are premium for apex, and the ability to turn off via wxm or the variable speed ports is huge. like i said, BMLED needs apex gurus. will work for lights. Best Idea ever! I would gladly spend more R&D time on the apex for some additional fixtures after all I still need two more Still the best idea from this entire thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juiceman Posted November 17, 2012 Author Share Posted November 17, 2012 Got it working with yellow on 5, purple on 1, grey on 2. So yellow to blue white, purple to green white, and grey to green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Bio)³ Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 when you dim yours all the way down does it pulse up slightly and settle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juiceman Posted November 17, 2012 Author Share Posted November 17, 2012 No, It's doing good. I just have to use an Outlet on my Power bar to power them since they don't turn off all the way via the Variable Outlet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Bio)³ Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 interesting. Yeah I want to find a way to avoid this so I can free up the outlet on the power bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Bio)³ Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Update with working solution from BML: Nick from BML provided me with the picture attached. If you wire the 4 ft fixture in this fashion it will work properly with the APEX. Understand that when nothing is plugged into the jack on the driver it will be at 100% when you plug the apex in and have the variable outlet off it will be at 10% witht he variable outlet at 100% the light will be at 100%. To turn it off completely you will turn off the outlet to the LED driver. Nick is also looking into a solution for the outlet having to be turned on and off. He has some schematics that show drivers that operate with just manipulating the voltage and already has ideas on a solution. If I learn more towards this I will update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esacjack Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Sorry if this is a remedial question, but I had assumed with the use of a power bar you could ramp lights up and down that were dimmable. And when you ran out of power bar outlets, you could expand via ethernet and another power bar. Is this not accurate? Or is everyone attempting to free up an outlet using simply ethernet into the apex to control BML's on-board dimming module? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juiceman Posted November 17, 2012 Author Share Posted November 17, 2012 You do not dim from the power outlets, you dim from the variable outlets which are Ethernet cable connections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Bio)³ Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 yea what juiceman said. you can expand to more outlets but when its costly I'd rather just avoid using an outlet if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esacjack Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 understood, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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