dshel1217 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Im tired of glueing something down just to see it in my sand bed two days later. Does anyone know if a good brand and type. I have BRS thick frag glue and its sucks. Let me know what you use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woods Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Supposedly the new EcoTech Glue is really good.... http://www.austinreefclub.com/topic/20812-ecotech-coral-glue/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timfish Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I use the generic super glue gel or potable water safe epoxy putty from the home improvement stores (technically it's a little cheaper to order it on line but it's one of those things I get brain farts with ) I haven't found anything that works all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshel1217 Posted January 30, 2012 Author Share Posted January 30, 2012 the Kracy super glue brand is not very good at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaJohn Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 make sure you get super glue GEL not the liquid stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonJones Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I use super glue gel and 2 part epoxy. The super glue gel works great, but you need to move quickly to get it to work. I think you can take a good thirty seconds after you put it on a frag before you put the frag underwater to glue. However, once you go underwater with it, the glue skins over pretty fast, so I find it best to move very quickly once underwater to place it, or put a bunch of glue on the frag so when you put it in place it breaks the skin on the glue and puts fresh glue down. When I really want something to stick, I put glue on the frag, then stick a glob of 2 part epoxy on the frag, then put more glue on the bottom of the epoxy and stick it into place. I rarely have frags come off when I use this method. As far as the Ecotech glue goes, I did not like it at all. It is too thick and takes too long to dry. I had problems with the applicator becoming clogged repeatedly. The needle on the inside of the top that supposedly keeps it from clogging also broke off. You can use it underwater, but I have heard of people accidently releasing pressure and sucking water into the glue, which ruins the whole bottle. For me, with the ease of using super glue gel, I do not see a point in using the ecotech brand. But I know a lot of people love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxiq Reef Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 i use the generic dollar store superglue gel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I use super glue gel and 2 part epoxy. The super glue gel works great, but you need to move quickly to get it to work. I think you can take a good thirty seconds after you put it on a frag before you put the frag underwater to glue. However, once you go underwater with it, the glue skins over pretty fast, so I find it best to move very quickly once underwater to place it, or put a bunch of glue on the frag so when you put it in place it breaks the skin on the glue and puts fresh glue down. When I really want something to stick, I put glue on the frag, then stick a glob of 2 part epoxy on the frag, then put more glue on the bottom of the epoxy and stick it into place. I rarely have frags come off when I use this method. As far as the Ecotech glue goes, I did not like it at all. It is too thick and takes too long to dry. I had problems with the applicator becoming clogged repeatedly. The needle on the inside of the top that supposedly keeps it from clogging also broke off. You can use it underwater, but I have heard of people accidently releasing pressure and sucking water into the glue, which ruins the whole bottle. For me, with the ease of using super glue gel, I do not see a point in using the ecotech brand. But I know a lot of people love it. Yep I did that and sucked in a whole bunch of water and ruined an entire bottle of the Ecotech glue The super glue gel is what I have used as well and it does seem to work pretty well. The only time I have had an issue with it is when I accidentally bump a frag and knock it off, but that's just my clutziness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timfish Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Another thing that may help if you use the super glue gel is baking soda (bicarbonate of soda) is an accelerant and filler for super glue. It only takes a small amount and you have to be careful not to get any on the frag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshel1217 Posted January 30, 2012 Author Share Posted January 30, 2012 Are u mixing the super glue and baking soda? What's the mix ratio? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timfish Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 There is no mix ratio, it only takes a small amount on the surface to set it up. I would guess the pot life to be about 5 - 10 seconds. The way I do it is have a very small amount of baking soda on a wood tongue depresser (plastic knife works also) ready to go, put super glue gel on the rock (dry the rock as much as possible) a little bit if glue on the base of the frag, stick the frag into the glue on the rock and while i'm holging the frag in place with one hand pick up the tongue depresser and spinkle the baking soda onto the super glue. you do have to be careful not baking soda on the frag, a few sprinkles won't do much damage but it will burn the coral tissue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afgun Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Super glue gel usually works well for me, but these Kenya trees have me tearing my hair out... they keep detaching. Any suggestions for those? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timfish Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Out of frustration I started useing tiewraps/zipties shoved through the stalk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+etannert Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Rubber bands. Or put some LR rubble in a small Tupperware dish, put the kenya tree in the tupperware, and put a net/citrus netting/wedding veil/etc. over the top and rubber-band in place so there is still water motion in the dish. In a couple days they'll attach to the rubble and you can wedge or glue it wherever you want. This method works great for xenia too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonJones Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 With leathers I have always used fishing line to hold them down until they take hold. Thread the fishing line through the eye of a needle (not as challenging as a camel) and stick the needle through the leather. I try aand do it a cm or so above the base so it doesnt rip through the leather when tieing it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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