+reeflover Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Wow, how many tangs are there? I like to add Achilles but last one got killed by PBT even though I only got 4 tangs in a 220 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juiceman Posted December 24, 2015 Author Share Posted December 24, 2015 Wow, how many tangs are there? I like to add Achilles but last one got killed by PBT even though I only got 4 tangs in a 220My experience was the opposite. My Achilles killed the Powder Blue I added.As of today I have In order of addition Purple Tang Sailfin Tang Yellow Tang Achilles Tang Chocolate Tang Blonde Naso Tang Sohal Tang Dussumieri Tang Hippo Tang Orange Shoulder Tang Kole Tang Black Tang I have tried a Clown, Powder Blue, both killed by the Achilles. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reburn Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Geeze that's a lot of tangs lol.Everything looks great. Colors on the sps seem to really be coming out. Would you say that it's mostly from the ATIs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juiceman Posted December 24, 2015 Author Share Posted December 24, 2015 Geeze that's a lot of tangs lol.Everything looks great. Colors on the sps seem to really be coming out. Would you say that it's mostly from the ATIs? Combination of ideal perimeters and great lights! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+reeflover Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 I really like to try it again, only my PBT been in tank first. Tiny PBT but very aggressive. I love your tangs selection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juiceman Posted December 28, 2015 Author Share Posted December 28, 2015 Ok, need thoughts.... My heater is 300w and my tank is sitting at about 76 right now. Thinking about adding a redundancy heater. Get another 300w or get a more powerful heater and turn the 300w into backup Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juiceman Posted December 28, 2015 Author Share Posted December 28, 2015 Also I should say that the tank usually sits between 78-80 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Buy a Finnex titanium 800 watt heater (rated 140-265 gals) as the main heater and run it off your Apex. Then use the 300 watt as a backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juiceman Posted December 28, 2015 Author Share Posted December 28, 2015 Buy a Finnex titanium 800 watt heater (rated 140-265 gals) as the main heater and run it off your Apex. Then use the 300 watt as a backup. I thought about that. My heater outlet got stuck in the On position about a year ago, luckily the internal controller was set to 77 so it didn't cook my tank. I'm worried about buying a heater without that fail safe. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reburn Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I would do another 300 with redundant controls. I share your same fears as to a heater sticking on and not having redundant controls on it. I recently has a digital aquatics pc4 outlet stick on. The relay went bad. The worse part is the indicator led and unit would show it coming on and off. But the relay was bad and stuck in the on position. Edit: I don't think that any one makes a heater larger than 300 watts with internal controls. I know ehiem jäger and finnex don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 If it did happen in my system, the chiller would just fight it the whole time until I noticed. Haha. Even if the heater was stuck on, the apex would turn off my lights to reduce heat and turn on the fans to cool along with the chiller. It would also text me that my temp is too high. Either case, I'm pretty sure I'd notice before things weren't awry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+brian.srock Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 If it did happen in my system, the chiller would just fight it the whole time until I noticed. Haha. Even if the heater was stuck on, the apex would turn off my lights to reduce heat and turn on the fans to cool along with the chiller. It would also text me that my temp is too high. Either case, I'm pretty sure I'd notice before things weren't awry. Even in your tub where most of your fish currently reside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 There's always that one guy! [emoji12] The tub has a 200 watt heater with its own controls hooked up to my Ranco temperature controller as a redundant heater controller. Boom! [emoji16] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juiceman Posted December 28, 2015 Author Share Posted December 28, 2015 If it did happen in my system, the chiller would just fight it the whole time until I noticed. Haha. Even if the heater was stuck on, the apex would turn off my lights to reduce heat and turn on the fans to cool along with the chiller. It would also text me that my temp is too high. Either case, I'm pretty sure I'd notice before things weren't awry. I didn't think about the chiller as a fail safe. Plus o didn't know how to setup the alarm system on the apex back then so that's another fail safe. I don't have the ATIs plugged into the apex since they have their own timer, but I don't have a canopy either so I don't think they'd contribute to a problem. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juiceman Posted December 28, 2015 Author Share Posted December 28, 2015 I would do another 300 with redundant controls. I share your same fears as to a heater sticking on and not having redundant controls on it. I recently has a digital aquatics pc4 outlet stick on. The relay went bad. The worse part is the indicator led and unit would show it coming on and off. But the relay was bad and stuck in the on position. Edit: I don't think that any one makes a heater larger than 300 watts with internal controls. I know ehiem jäger and finnex don't. There's a 500w finnex but apparently all the bad reviews for the finnex heaters on BRS are from the 500w model. I think I'm steering clear of that one Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Yeah, I personally wouldn't trust the Finnex controller, but the titanium heater by itself is awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+brian.srock Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Vote for 300w redundant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juiceman Posted December 28, 2015 Author Share Posted December 28, 2015 After reading reviews and pricing out some different scenarios, went with the same brand I still have. I've had my current ViaAqua titanium heater for 5 years and have never had an issue. Gonna add this one as well with the same settings, hopefully keeps the temp a little more stable. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+brian.srock Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Plus only $15 on Amazon so not a bad deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juiceman Posted December 28, 2015 Author Share Posted December 28, 2015 Plus only $15 on Amazon so not a bad deal. Where did you find it in stock on Amazon? I looked before picking it up! Apparently it's discontinued. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+brian.srock Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00513MZ6S/ref=ya_st_dp_summary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juiceman Posted December 29, 2015 Author Share Posted December 29, 2015 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00513MZ6S/ref=ya_st_dp_summary Oh i saw that. That's the glass one.... Ever since one shattered on me in a mixing bin, never again. Titanium only! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juiceman Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 Just want to do some comparison shots from the initial T-5 addition to now Juiceman's Blue Acro 1 Juiceman's Blue Acro 2 Palmer's Blue Mille Rainbow Nasuta Now these next 2 are growth and Color Change: Clint's Pink Tipped Acro Northern Lights Nasuta Roscoe's Blue Acro started RTN'ing so it turned into this: I was discussing with Ty one of the additives from Zeovit I used called ZeoSpur2. It's designed to Lighten the tissue of the Acros by causing them to release some of their zooxanthellae. The color change Pictures or form this additive. Yes my parameters and good and yes my lights are great, but this current look is cause by ZeoSpur which I dose every few weeks. NOT FOR ANYONE WITH UNHEALTHY CORAL OR UNSTABLE PARAMETERS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juiceman Posted January 1, 2016 Author Share Posted January 1, 2016 Been giving serious thought to shutting down the 60g and just focusing on the 200. I would for sure keep the Umbrellas, the Torch and the Frogspawn. Clowns would come as well. The questionables are the puffer, foxface, and yellow Tang. Putfer likes clams so it's the Clam or the Puffer.. I have a Magnificent Foxface in the 200 so Idk about putting another.. 2 Yellow Tangs... Idk Thoughts? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Shut it down sir. I'd sell off the fish and call it a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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