Brunofamily Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 HELP!! We have been treating for a massive Red Cyno attack. Even with the Chem Clean, multiple major water changes, scrubbing, water movement, lower lighting hours, etc. it keeps getting worse! What else can we do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+C Lo Slice Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 I'd be interested in possible solutions too. I've done the exact same things you guys have done, Brunofamily, with no positive results. How long has yalls setup been going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 How old are your bulbs and maybe wrong kelvin color. Also are you running phosphan media and changing it weekly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonk Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 we had a red cyan earlier in september in one corner of our tank, and i realized that every morning before the tank lights turned on, light would get in from a window nearby. after adjusting the light cycle of the tank and closing the blinds, the problem seemed to have cured itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elizzy Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Odd, never had chemi clean -not- work. Are you stopping your filter/skimmer and adding an air source for 48 hours? What's your nitrate at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerrickH Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Odd, never had chemi clean -not- work. Are you stopping your filter/skimmer and adding an air source for 48 hours? What's your nitrate at? yeah same here. I had it bad too.....every rock had patches on it. Chemiclean as directed and huge water change. Then set level up on skimmer and wet skimmed for a while to get nutrient count down. Did you move the tank? Stir up the sand bed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mFrame Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 If you've got cyano you're most likely overfeeding and/or providing too much light. Additionally, increasing flow in the tank will keep cyano from settling. So, things to try: cut back on food, do 3 days of darkness (no light at all), adjust your power heads to try and establish current throughout your tank (avoid having dead spots). After 3 days the cyano should be struggling to hang on or may outright disappear. This doesn't mean it's gone, just that it is floating in the water. Immediately after the 3 days of darkness do at least a 50% water change, and if you still see signs of it do another 50% at the end of the week. You have to get the free-floating cyano out of the tank as well as the nutrients in the water column that it is feeding on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+C Lo Slice Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 If you've got cyano you're most likely overfeeding and/or providing too much light. Additionally, increasing flow in the tank will keep cyano from settling. So, things to try: cut back on food, do 3 days of darkness (no light at all), adjust your power heads to try and establish current throughout your tank (avoid having dead spots). After 3 days the cyano should be struggling to hang on or may outright disappear. This doesn't mean it's gone, just that it is floating in the water. Immediately after the 3 days of darkness do at least a 50% water change, and if you still see signs of it do another 50% at the end of the week. You have to get the free-floating cyano out of the tank as well as the nutrients in the water column that it is feeding on. I'm only feeding twice a week and cannot provide 3 days of darkness due to corals. I cut back on my light timer by 2.5 hours per day and I'm still having problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerrickH Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 You got a good skimmer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+C Lo Slice Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Nope, no skimmer at all. I know I need to get one. Money has just been too tight lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mFrame Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 If you've got cyano you're most likely overfeeding and/or providing too much light. Additionally, increasing flow in the tank will keep cyano from settling. So, things to try: cut back on food, do 3 days of darkness (no light at all), adjust your power heads to try and establish current throughout your tank (avoid having dead spots). After 3 days the cyano should be struggling to hang on or may outright disappear. This doesn't mean it's gone, just that it is floating in the water. Immediately after the 3 days of darkness do at least a 50% water change, and if you still see signs of it do another 50% at the end of the week. You have to get the free-floating cyano out of the tank as well as the nutrients in the water column that it is feeding on. I'm only feeding twice a week and cannot provide 3 days of darkness due to corals. I cut back on my light timer by 2.5 hours per day and I'm still having problems Why can't you do 3 days of darkness due to corals? It's much more dangerous to the corals to have them covered in cyano than to have them in darkness for a few days. The corals will be absolutely fine. Think of it this way, in the ocean during storms corals can go days without sunlight. If you want to get rid of the cyano quickly the best way to do it is 3 days of darkness followed by a large water change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+C Lo Slice Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 That makes sense. I was under the assumption 3 days without light wouldn't be good. Thanks, vwmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pailines Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 I have a question, do you need a skimmer if chemi-clean is used? Or is carbon and WC sufficient? Thanks - No mean to bum your thunder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerrickH Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 DO NOT RUN SKIMMER WHILE USING CHEMICLEAN Well if you want a foamy mess all over your floor then yeah you could use the skimmer lol! You dont want to pull the solution out of the water for 48hrs or it wont work. Carbon is useless for cynao and not many critters will eat it. If you have cyano, then your nutrient level is too high. Overfeeding, stirring up sand bed, incorrect lighting combined with the afore mentioned will make cyano explode. Its common to see cyano when using someone elses "live" sand from one tank and moving it another. Only success Ive had at doing this is to stir up the sand every few hours and wet skim like crazy (empty skimmer cup every hour...) and large water changes while water is still cloudy from stirring up the sand. At the end of the day, just pays to get some dead sand and flush the hell out of it with tap water to get as much silicates out and let your tank run through a small cycle using live rock. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elizzy Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 (edited) Aquatek has some trochus snails (as of last weekend) in stock -- those suckers ate my cyano! p.s. Pailines - all that's required after chemiclean is a WC...20% after 48 hours iirc. Edited November 16, 2011 by Elizzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Bio)³ Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I had a bit of a red algae outbreak happening in my 29 biocube. Tossed an elephant slug into my tank and in two days it's all gone. I'm giving him a couple more days and then he is going to have to go somewhere else. He will starve out my CUC with how much he eats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hancockrich Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Few questions so i am not shooting in the dark.. 1. What are your water prams? 2. What are you using for filtration? 3. Livestock and feeding amounts? 4. Age of tank? 5. Is it a BioCube? 6. Age of bulbs and K? V/R Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FragIt Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I agree with everyone...The cyano is the symptom of a much larger problem......You have way too much nutrient and not enough exportation of those nutrients..... Many would argue for a DSB but I am against them in small tanks......get your filtration from LR and WC and skimming if you can. IME any DSB I ever used held all kinds of nasty stuff ( ever stirred up your sand bed and then tested water?) As long as you continue what you are doing then you will be fighting the same battle over and over again..Unless......You are cycling a tank and added someone elses "live" sand i.e. a handful of someone elses detritus and waste filled particulate. If you are cycling then just do as everyone else says and reduce remove and filter..Hopefully after the tank cycles and settles down it will even out..........If you are running the right spectrum and have good flow then that pretty much says you are overtaxing your tank with a heavy bioload....I.e. feeding fish and whatnot. Pull back on everything. Let your corals get their food from the light for a week or so....But then,.......You have to remember that even if you shut lights, dont feed for a few days/wks......WHat will happen when you resume things as normal? Same problem......You got the algae by doing something your tank did not like......Now its time to identify source of problem and either eliminate it or modify it to be more within allowable params.....Good luck!!!! Go slow and patience is key......Just think if you go out and buy someone to eat that algae....you are just increasing not only your bioload( nutrient req and addition to system.....but also adding another band aid to an overfed system already.....what happens if it dies off and fouls your water? A nutrient filled dead thing is sure to cause you a problem...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+dapettit Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I'm wonderng what you are using to top off your tank? Dave- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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