+Lamont Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 For the last 2 weeks i have noticed that a few bubbles have been stuck to the edges of some of my live rock and snails. when i got home yesterday and looked in my tank i notice a stack of bubbles at the back of it. there were also more bubbles on more rocks. i thought this was bubble algae, but i have had 2 green spheres of bubble algae that have been in my tank since set up. they have never burst or ruptured. Could this be some type of of egg from the snails or fish. i have not had a problem with microbubbles either. I have posted a few pics if some one else has seen this before let me know if i should be worried or not. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill B Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Lamont - I don't see the pictures but my first impression is this is algae with air bubbles trapped in it. I have some that is yellowish so it's not as noticeable when you first see it. Just a guess. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Lamont Posted January 21, 2010 Author Share Posted January 21, 2010 I have tried to post some pics, but they will not upload. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispar Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 before i started getting a cyano outbreak, Id notice little bubbles attached to my rocks. I was feeding to much so i had a cyano outbreak, i stopped feeding as much and the cyano and the bubbles went away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Lamont Posted January 21, 2010 Author Share Posted January 21, 2010 Here is one pic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddybluewater Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Try using the attachments, below the text box, instead of add photo. Click on browse. Find the pic on your computer. click on it and then click on attach this file. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Lamont Posted January 21, 2010 Author Share Posted January 21, 2010 Here are the pics. Sorry it took so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjohn Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Micro bubbles from your skimmer, maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddybluewater Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Looks like the start of cyano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+KeeperOfTheZoo Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Yep, I'd second the start of cyano especially the red growth on the rock in the upper left. That is how my nightmare outbreak started. Red growth on rocks, bubbles... now it's all over my substrate. It seems like it's getting better the last couple days but I'm almost afraid to say that and jinx myself. Gotta go knock on wood, throw salt... Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadodge Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 YEP.... Flow!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Lamont Posted January 22, 2010 Author Share Posted January 22, 2010 I think you folks are right again! if it is cyano could i use a soft bristled brush and scrape it off the live rock and sand or do i have to use a chemical? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispar Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Ive got some stuff for cyano you could borrow if neede.......I waited to use it as a last resort and it worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddybluewater Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 You can use a turkey baster to blow it off the rocks and siphon it out or a net for removal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Lamont Posted January 22, 2010 Author Share Posted January 22, 2010 Ive got some stuff for cyano you could borrow if neede.......I waited to use it as a last resort and it worked. i would like to try it out if you dont mind. how many doses did it take and did you see the affects on anything else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Lamont Posted January 22, 2010 Author Share Posted January 22, 2010 You can use a turkey baster to blow it off the rocks and siphon it out or a net for removal. if i use a brush will it just spread around the tank and affect more rock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispar Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Looking for it as we speak. It was red slime control made by Blue Life. it worked after one treatment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill B Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Just my two cents, but don't over react too much. I believe your tank is pretty new. Diatoms, followed by hair algae, followed by a little cyano seem to be very common at first. I used an old toothbrush and try to let the film stick to the bristles and perhaps roll it around a little to carry it out. It does not spread more, like some algae which releases more spores when disrupted. Increasing your flow may help some. I often hear this but my experience was usually it just moved someplace else where the PH was not blowing directly on. As mentioned I wonder if it isn't a little bit just a new tank syndrome, with the tank trying to get in balance but excess nutrients are generally the main culprit. My advice, for which you are paying nuttin, and may be the true value, is do all the rountine water maintenance stuff, manually remove with a brush or tiny siphon hose, cut back your light period a little, don't overfeed and try to ride it out a little. I have had some success with that chemical cleaner, which I would use as last resort. Mostly work on water quality and try to work it out naturally. This will be the longer lasting results. IMHO Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Lamont Posted January 22, 2010 Author Share Posted January 22, 2010 Looking for it as we speak. It was red slime control made by Blue Life. it worked after one treatment if you dont mind, i am going to hold off with the chemicals for the weekend and do a water change and see what happens. Its not out of control yet, so i will try to siphon it out then let you know how it went. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Lamont Posted January 22, 2010 Author Share Posted January 22, 2010 Just my two cents, but don't over react too much. I believe your tank is pretty new. Diatoms, followed by hair algae, followed by a little cyano seem to be very common at first. I used an old toothbrush and try to let the film stick to the bristles and perhaps roll it around a little to carry it out. It does not spread more, like some algae which releases more spores when disrupted. Increasing your flow may help some. I often hear this but my experience was usually it just moved someplace else where the PH was not blowing directly on. As mentioned I wonder if it isn't a little bit just a new tank syndrome, with the tank trying to get in balance but excess nutrients are generally the main culprit. My advice, for which you are paying nuttin, and may be the true value, is do all the rountine water maintenance stuff, manually remove with a brush or tiny siphon hose, cut back your light period a little, don't overfeed and try to ride it out a little. I have had some success with that chemical cleaner, which I would use as last resort. Mostly work on water quality and try to work it out naturally. This will be the longer lasting results. IMHO Bill Bill, i think that would be best. i will try a few things over the weekend and keep u posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+o0zarkawater Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 I've had good luck with a small siphon hose, either just regular air tubing, or I have some that is just a little bit thicker. Start a siphon and just suck it all out! it usually comes up quite easily, and then is removed from the tank instead of floating around and spreading. The good part about using the smaller hose is that the strength of the siphon is concentrated, and it also doesn't remove a bunch of water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill B Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 The good part about using the smaller hose is that the strength of the siphon is concentrated, and it also doesn't remove a bunch of water. I agree. In fact it removes a surprisingly small amount of water, using just a 1/4" ID. But Lamont you really don't have a concerning amount yet. Most likely it will only be in those spots where there is a red film that you can suck up anything. Most of those spots with the clear bubbles, not so much. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispar Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Like said "Last Resort" Mine had gotten outta control. It was so bad I didnt even want to look at the tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Lamont Posted January 22, 2010 Author Share Posted January 22, 2010 I've had good luck with a small siphon hose, either just regular air tubing, or I have some that is just a little bit thicker. Start a siphon and just suck it all out! it usually comes up quite easily, and then is removed from the tank instead of floating around and spreading. The good part about using the smaller hose is that the strength of the siphon is concentrated, and it also doesn't remove a bunch of water. thanks, thats what i will do. i will have easy access to were it is at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doktorstick Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 When I hit the breakout stages (it was moderately bad) of hair algae when my tank was setup, I did a 3-days lights out with only natural lighting lighting the tank. Lack of intense lighting plus the CuC got it under control and no problems. As a matter of course, I do a 3-day lights out every two months now. I finished one the other day and I'm always awed by the polyp extension when the cycle starts up again. I imagine this would work with cyano outbreak as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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