cliff Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Got home last night and the Naso Tang had cloudy eyes,,,he was still eating fine so i elected to not take him out and set up the hospital tank. This morning. He was dead.... Any Ideas on what this was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Cloudy eyes are usually a symptom of ich, sometimes marine velvet, and bacterial infections. At the speed that you noticed the symptoms to its death, I would imagine a bacterial infection. Those are pretty uncommon in a healthy and established tank. Did you notice any other symptoms in the naso? How long as the tank been running? How long have you had the tang? Do any other fish have any symptoms? Did you add any new fish recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliff Posted June 2, 2016 Author Share Posted June 2, 2016 Tank has been up and running about 4 months. He was the new fish. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 I know after the fact and not helpful but I would highly recommend QT'ing fish in the future. It could have been worse and the disease could have spread and killed all your existing fish in the display while at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliff Posted June 2, 2016 Author Share Posted June 2, 2016 bout ready to throw in the towel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliff Posted June 2, 2016 Author Share Posted June 2, 2016 and both my clowns jumped out of the tank..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sascha D. Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Cloudy eyes is almost always associated with bad water quality. If you haven't tested, then I would recommend it. If it were me then I would do big a water change immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliff Posted June 2, 2016 Author Share Posted June 2, 2016 Just did a ten gallon change. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sascha D. Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Is the ten gallon water change on the 75g? What were your test results? It's possible that the tangs might have created a bioload higher than your tank capacity. I know that you didn't ask for my opinion. I just thought that I would bring it up as one possibility for troubleshooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliff Posted June 6, 2016 Author Share Posted June 6, 2016 Yes the ten gallon was for the 75g. My parameters are perfect. No spikes anywhere. So...I'm thinking bacterial infection. Lost a Naso tang. Mandarin, pink skunk clown, and a coral beauty. All in 2 days. The damsil and the wrasse survived. How do I treat this bacterial infection with coral in the tank? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliff Posted June 6, 2016 Author Share Posted June 6, 2016 And yes Sascha it's possible the tang added too much bioload. Before him I only had a damsel and a mandarin. So it more than doubled....I should have dosed live bacteria....and I didn't think to check the water parameters after he died. Very stupid of me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 If all those fish died that quickly, I'd almost suspect marine velvet as well. Did you notice the fish swimming in front of powerheads at night? A light dusting of what looks like sugar in the skin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliff Posted June 7, 2016 Author Share Posted June 7, 2016 Nope and nope....:/ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Yes the ten gallon was for the 75g. My parameters are perfect. No spikes anywhere. So...I'm thinking bacterial infection. Lost a Naso tang. Mandarin, pink skunk clown, and a coral beauty. All in 2 days. The damsil and the wrasse survived. How do I treat this bacterial infection with coral in the tank? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk You cannot. You will have to remove the fish and treat. Continue with water changes as well to improve water quality in the tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliff Posted June 9, 2016 Author Share Posted June 9, 2016 https://vimeo.com/170088903 Another one bites the dust. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Hard to tell but I thought I saw some white spots on the wrasse. Looks more like ich than velvet to me. Ich can kill your fish but at the rate yours are dying, I'd only assume bacterial or marine velvet was involved. Any fish left in the tank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliff Posted June 10, 2016 Author Share Posted June 10, 2016 Just one. A damsel. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reburn Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 At this point is seems like a good idea to pull that damsel and go ahead and run fallow to make sure whatever parasite or bacteria you have dies off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 At this point is seems like a good idea to pull that damsel and go ahead and run fallow to make sure whatever parasite or bacteria you have dies off.Solid advice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sascha D. Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Going fallow comes with it's own set of consequences. I would research it for your own piece of mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliff Posted June 11, 2016 Author Share Posted June 11, 2016 Going fallow comes with it's own set of consequences. I would research it for your own piece of mind. Can you elaborate on this? I haven't found any bad stuff related to a fallow period. In my mind they have a bacteria or parasite. How am I supposed to add fish to an infected water system? How would you treat this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Going fallow comes with it's own set of consequences. I would research it for your own piece of mind. Can you elaborate on this? I haven't found any bad stuff related to a fallow period. In my mind they have a bacteria or parasite. How am I supposed to add fish to an infected water system? How would you treat this? Not aware of too many consequences either other than lowered nutrient levels when removing fish. I would just leave the tank fallow for 60 days just to cover yourself for marine velvet and then add a tester fish that's cheap and more importantly, easy to catch in case whatever is in your system is still there. The tank must be empty of fish for the total 60 days consecutively. I would start to employ a QT regiment from this point on and QT all fish and observe before adding to the display. While the chances are on the lower side of bringing in something that'll kill your whole tank, after living through it once, I'd try to avoid it again if possible. It doesn't even have to be something crazy elaborate. For smaller fishes, I use a 5-gallon bucket with an air pump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliff Posted June 11, 2016 Author Share Posted June 11, 2016 Thanks Ty. I got the QT set up. Just waiting for the damsel to go into my homemade water bottle trap. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Thanks Ty. I got the QT set up. Just waiting for the damsel to go into my homemade water bottle trap. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Oh, that's way fancier than my 5-gallon bucket. [emoji4] Just keep an eye out on ammonia levels in the QT. I typically use an ammonia alert badge to help monitor levels and do water changes as needed. You can usually find them locally in the big shop pet stores. Good luck sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliff Posted June 11, 2016 Author Share Posted June 11, 2016 Awesome. I have one of those. I'll throw it in. Thanks again for your help. I'm not givin up just yet. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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