looking to start a group order the end of jun any day after the 25 (ill be all done with the army so Ill be able to pic them up at the fedex station so the box wont have to be in the hot fedex truck) I have ordered from .LiveAquaria before but an open to other reputable online venders you can pm me or give me a call (804 516 2367) leave a message, Im usually on my motorcycle so i miss a lot of calls but i always check the phone when i get off. I would like to get enough people so shipping is free or very cheep.