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Your livestock probably wouldn't make it more than 24 hrs without areation and air conditioning, I've got a 300 gallon tank setup in my warehouse you can drop them in, about an hour from san marcos. PM me if you want me to hold them while you find a buyer.

Scrape off as much as you can while using a siphon hose to remove all the bits as they come off, then flip the rock over inside the tank so it can't get any light, it will die off. Long ago I had that stuff, I pulled the rock and used a wire brush to get it all off, then rinsed it off before putting it back in the tank. Just like you said, smells terrible.

you sure it didn't just fall off as part of its life cycle? Mark don't be a hater I'm just j/k

That's because they were treating the water, not the food. What's in the water would be a much higher dose than when just using it in food like you are. It kills algae so when the concentration is high, like when treating the water, then it could kill of the macro. Also don't worry about your lighting, since you are treating only the food then the light should have no effect on the treatment.

I knew why but no one else reading this does, I wanted you to tell people what happened. You bought a powder brown from a LFS, I warned you that it would probably break out with ich soon and unfortunately it did. Then you took the fish back to the store and they treated in copper for only 3 days, I told you that wasn't going to be long enough that it would break out with ich again soon and unfortunately it did. After this you tried the food but I think it was probably too late for the tang? Was it eating the medicated food? Was the clownfish eating the medicated food?

It's photo sensitive and what's not eaten breaks down quickly. Here is some good info about chloroquine phospate. http://www.saltcorner.com/Letters/showexchange.php?exchangeID=179 Clownfish can get ich no doubt, they are tough fish though being from the damsel family so they can usually pull through with treatment. Clownfish are the only fish I have ever seen recover from laying on their sides at the bottom of the tank.

Ich right?

I'm ordering more today, they are really inexpensive. I'm going to setup a 10 gallon tank for the eggs to hatch in this time. I have no idea what species it is, they don't say on the list....just cuttlefish eggs.

Kevin if I put mine near a powerhead it breaks up in to some finer pieces too, you might try putting it in a lower flow area (if you aren't already). If I drop the food in the tank it will stay togther almost completely intact until it gets in to the flow of my powerheads, then it breaks up in to small pieces. This works for me since I have small fish in there that eat it. When I feed my display tank though with larger fish I turn the powerheads to "feed" mode and just drop in the globs. Almost all of it is eaten by the large fish this way. I think that turning off the power heads during feeding is important so that little is wasted/uneaten and little pieces aren't blown all around the tank allowing it to get in to corals. Bannerfish I agree, my fish don't love it but they will eat it. I haven't put garlic on it yet but that's a good idea, I think that I'll start doing that. I'm glad to hear things are going OK at the moment.

I added 2 of them to my refugium recently, I got them in as eggs from my distributor. One had hatched in the bag, it was tiny. I dropped the unhatched egg and the hatched cuttlefish in the fuge since its a great place for them to hunt amphipods. I haven't seen them since but I'm not suprised, there is a large ball of cheato in there and they would be the size of marble at best. I hope they are doing well, I'm planning on ordering a couple more but next time I will hatch them in a 10 gallon tank so I can watch them closer. I keep looking for them everyday but no sign of them yet.

Do you mean 9 corals seem unaffected except for the chalice? Thank you for keeping us posted! I'm really curious what will turn out with the bannerfish. Did you notice that you are supposed to let the food thaw on it own (not in water) and then feed? Also you aren't supposed to hold the frozen food underwater in the tank and let it thaw either (which is how I was doing it lol). Dr g told me that to overdose a fish is almost impossible because the fish isn't capable of eating enough of it. He also told me that it could be fed everyday, several times a day, and all the fish can eat in 3 minutes. On the package it says to feed every other day and only what they can eat in 1 minute. I'm not sure why the directions don't just say that. Maybe it isn't necessary to feed it that often, not sure, I should have asked! I'll find out next time I talk to him. Timfish I'm with you, that's encouraging but I need more proof. So all my hermits have been eating the leftovers and are still alive.....HOWEVER these are some bada** hermits. They are living in a 5 ppm copper dose and eating this medicated food, seem to be doing just fine! I scooped these up from the beach in puerto rico, tough mofo's

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It will probably been fine once it grows back. The reason that they seemed fused together is interesting. One coral had extruded its stomach and was digesting the other coral.

It kinda coarse, looks like medium aragonite to me.

The stuff you saw in my QT tanks is crushed oyster shell I got from tractor supply company, $10 for a 50lb bag.

Do they have a double scapel on their tail or is that just an urban legend?

+1 for weld on #4

I've got a little zebra eel for sale that would be great for your tank. Zebra eels will only eat your inverts and not your fish, mine ate all inverts in the tank except a coral banded shrimp. Eels are really fun, especially to feed em.

I wouldn't unless its the last fish in the tank and you plan on having no other tangs. I've always wanted one too but I have never heard anyone say their sohal didn't have a bad attitude.

I checked out the chiller and it needed a fan motor, instead of finding a motor he decided to replace it with a new unit.

I was told that it would not harm inverts, I am a little skeptical though. i would have to see this for myself before I could get behind that. I'm feeding a 300 gallon tank with the anti parasite food, it has 10 or so large hermit crabs and about 50 mini hermits. i will know soon enough if it kills them or not, its the only food I will be feeding the tank moving forward.

I would never suggest to use this product instead of qting fish. I think this medicated food is a crutch to allow your fishes health to improve enough to fight off the parasite on their own. I don't think it will ever completely rid a tank of ich and the manufacturer doesn't claim that. As with any fish that survives an ich outbreak in a DT it's the fishes health that prevails and allows its own defenses to fight off the parasite, this food should improve their health and give them a better fighting chance. You say there is a lot of data that suggests that it doesn't work 100% of the time, this may be true but I have never seen it. I'm not sure that we're talking about the same product since you call it an herb concotion, its active ingredient is actually phamacutical grade medication, chloroquine phosphate (not an herb). The company was created by a doctor and he is following the recipe that sea world uses so this isn't something brand new to the industry. I've done hours and hours of research and Mark C is the first person to ever speak negatively about the food saying that a breeder he knew it tried it and it didn't work. What data are you talking about? If you found something that I didn't I would like to read about it please. I'm testing the product myself but I also want other people to test it too, that is the purpose of this thread. Please note the theme of the thread, and the question marks, I make no claims that it works but I want to find out, that was the purpose. So I guess we're in agreement there, because testing it is exactly my plan. Again, I'd never recommend not quarantining fish. But if this is effective on any level it can help with those newcomers that do come down with ich. The anti bacteria food I would assume has medication in it for both but I really haven't looked in to it yet, I will though. The food does not have enough medication in to effect the entire tank, I do know that. The amount that it would take to affect an entire tank is far more than what would be mixed in the food.

They can and do move around, slowly though. Its a great way to make them reproduce actually, as they walk they leave behind babies. You may need to rescue the ric though, I wouldn't expect it to make its way out anytime soon.

Great! He has a good chance then.