DerrickH Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Ok so I've been dosing purple up to boost coraline growth n my CA has gone ballistic...520-550ppm. My ph is riding around 8.0-8.2 swings between light cycles. I don't have a mag test kit. My dkh is really low, 7-7.2. I've got gha coming with a vengance! I'm hoping some of yall seasoned reefers can educate me a bit. I've read about tech M n all the other doses but short of water changes what else do u recommend. I have to b carefully with my lights no TDOD can be had....SPS in my tank.. Other params are: SG 1.026 Temp 76-77 Nitra/nitri 0 Amo 0 Pho .08(running GFO NONSTOP) Seems it was receeding when I was running GAC but not sure if that was the cause. New bulbs as in a week old. All ATI. SPS/LPS n fish doing fine except for ick on my BHT. Hoping Hydro can chime in, haven't seen him on the forums lately. Or any other experienced aquaria chemists. I need to ditch this before I move my rock over to my bigger tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindflux Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Tech M will kill snails and things of that nature. I've debated Tech M for my own GHA issue but I'd rather not re-buy a CUC. I think my sea hare is getting tired as he's missing large patches of growing algae in my tank even though I'm feeding very very sparsely now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballistic.reefer Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 actually tech m does not kill all your inverts, and as far as the green hair algae, i would just grab a couple of turbos or an urchin and let them get to work. just me 2 cents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasonHoff Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 derrick if you want a good honest opinion! go to reef 2 reef! people here on arc seem to think they are too good for us newbies! its simply just a bigger community! Ok so I've been dosing purple up to boost coraline growth n my CA has gone ballistic...520-550ppm. My ph is riding around 8.0-8.2 swings between light cycles. I don't have a mag test kit. My dkh is really low, 7-7.2. I've got gha coming with a vengance! I'm hoping some of yall seasoned reefers can educate me a bit. I've read about tech M n all the other doses but short of water changes what else do u recommend. I have to b carefully with my lights no TDOD can be had....SPS in my tank.. Other params are: SG 1.026 Temp 76-77 Nitra/nitri 0 Amo 0 Pho .08(running GFO NONSTOP) Seems it was receeding when I was running GAC but not sure if that was the cause. New bulbs as in a week old. All ATI. SPS/LPS n fish doing fine except for ick on my BHT. Hoping Hydro can chime in, haven't seen him on the forums lately. Or any other experienced aquaria chemists. I need to ditch this before I move my rock over to my bigger tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+dapettit Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 As one who has been battling this for several months I have finally started to see the tank make a turn for the better. As you mentioned, it appears your phosphates are a little high. I would ask, how often do you change out your GAC, what are you using for top off, and how long is your photo period? Also can you test your pH? You might switch the GAC to GFO. . . This should help bring to the Phosphates I have tried all kinds of "chemical" fixes from Tech M to Everclear. While these had some effect it wasn't really killing it. I found this article and have put it to good use. Green Hair Algae: Why me? Understand that what might work in my tank may not work in yours. There are too many variables. I hope this gives you a little help. Good luck and keep us post. Dave- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+dapettit Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 We also have a resources area that has good info as well. These have been written by "seasoned" reefers. Here is the link: Resources> ARC wikipedia Also I suggest, if you haven't already, send a PM to Hydro. Again good luck in your battle, Dave- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wa1tx Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 You can probably find or get two hundred different solutions. I have figured out in this hobby there is mo one size fits all solution. I had a serious outbreak of GHA and Cyano at the same time. This is what I did and it worked for me. 1. Replaced bulbs 2. Cut my light cycle by 25% 3. added phosgard per a suggestion from Jake 4. Replaced carbon and chemipure 5. 50% water changes every other day Before each water change I scrubbed the rocks off with a new toothbrush. Inside of 2 weeks it was gone and has not returned yet. Just my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerrickH Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 Thanks for all the replies. I am running GFO in a 2 lil fishies reactor and have been for about 3 weeks. I change the media out every 4-5 days. Also, I have 11 huge turbo snails, and 2 tangs. I tried a couple tuxedo urchins but they both died. I thought it was my fault, but apparently, all of them from the LFS died on everyone else as well, including the ones at the store. I cannot scrub my rock with a tooth brush since I have a canopy on the tank that is a total pita to get off. Im going to cut my photo period down by 25% and start running GAC again but will probably see some shrinking on my LPS. As for water changes, I use RO/DI water and oceanic salt and do 15g water changes every 2 weeks(60g total DT/SUMP volume). Im using API test kits(I know not the best) to test everything except mag. I will pick up a mag test tomorrow as I think its very low along with my alk. The last time I did a water change, it seemed that the GHA had stopped spreading and for a few days it was dissapearing. But after some purple up dosing, it has come back but my alk has also dropped heavily when I start dosing and buffer cannot keep up. Im willing to bet after a water change tonight my dkh will be around 10 and will be fine till I start dosing purple up again. Im just wondering with me tampering with the trace elements, if its just a balance issue between CA/MG/ALK and the skew has made ideal conditions for the GHA to thrive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindflux Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 derrick if you want a good honest opinion! go to reef 2 reef! people here on arc seem to think they are too good for us newbies! its simply just a bigger community![quote I'm not sure what you are implying but this isn't the place to air out your grievances with the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wa1tx Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Derrick If it were my tank, I would stop dosing anything until you can get the GHA under control.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerrickH Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 Derrick If it were my tank, I would stop dosing anything until you can get the GHA under control.... Yeah that makes sense. I haven't dosed PU in a couple days and Im going to do a water change tonight and then monitor the params and see what happens with the alk. Going to wait a week or so then start dosing slowly again and see how it skews the alk/mag/pH. Would be a good test and information for anyone on the same water supply as me and with this particular salt. I do know that anyone having a low CA problem could sure spike it with PU! Weird seeing posts about low CA and people struggling to get it up. And I was going to get a CA reactor....guess I dont need one now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wa1tx Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Derrick You gonna be around later this morning for me to give you a call? WA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerrickH Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 What time you thinking? Im at work now and its hit or miss here. One min its calm as a hindu cow, then next is like a chinese fire drill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wa1tx Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 What time you thinking? Im at work now and its hit or miss here. One min its calm as a hindu cow, then next is like a chinese fire drill. 6P ish then? Would that work better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerrickH Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 6 works, I'll be home tinkering with the tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+dapettit Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Here is what I was up against: This is what I pulled out during the last water change. After water change, Dave- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timfish Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 You can probably find or get two hundred different solutions. I have figured out in this hobby there is mo one size fits all solution. I had a serious outbreak of GHA and Cyano at the same time. This is what I did and it worked for me. 1. Replaced bulbs 2. Cut my light cycle by 25% 3. added phosgard per a suggestion from Jake 4. Replaced carbon and chemipure 5. 50% water changes every other day Before each water change I scrubbed the rocks off with a new toothbrush. Inside of 2 weeks it was gone and has not returned yet. Just my experience. This is pretty much the sequence I would do although I'd do the water changes weekly and wouldn't cut the light cycle. I really like urchins like the Royal, Tuxedo or Atlantic Green for long term maintenance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerrickH Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 Well mine isnt nearly that bad! I removed 2 pieces of rock last night that had some palys n shrooms on them that were starting to spread and upon rinsing one of the rocks, there was bubble algae on it, and some black cyano hiding in between the palys. Glad I got to the BA before it spread, last thing I need is another thing to combat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+dapettit Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Tim I agree. Following the steps listed good adive. I also have three very small tuxedos and they are just muching away. I picked up a small sea hare this weekend. One of the urchins follows it around cleaning up after it. Dave- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerrickH Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 1. Replaced bulbs Done 2. Cut my light cycle by 25% Done 3. added phosgard per a suggestion from Jake Been running GFO for 3 weeks 4. Replaced carbon and chemipure Going to run GAC starting tonight 5. 50% water changes every other day Doing 10% water changes each week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+dapettit Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Let me know if you need more GFO. I have a ton of it. Dave- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerrickH Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 Its it the small Bb size granules? Ive got some supper tiny pellet size ones and they kinda get stuck in the foam rings in my reactor. I need to get another reactor for GAC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+dapettit Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Not sure of the size it's fro BRS. I'll check when I get to the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerrickH Posted August 1, 2011 Author Share Posted August 1, 2011 Well after a water change, and trimming the photo period down a bit.....Im **** near GHA free! Still some on my sand bed near the back. Cant believe it disappeared so fast! Going to do another water change tonight. My BHT has ick real bad so tried the garlic stuff and it seems to help but then it looks horrible again the next day or so. All other fish dont have it. Thinking about getting rid of it if anyone is interested in trying to rid this thing of the ick or if anyone has a UV sterilizer they want to sell pretty cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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