chrisfowler99 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Trying to decide which kind of overflow I'd like in my next system. The tank is likely to be 60x24x24, eurobraced. I'd like to avoid corner overflows. They distract the view. I was thinking about going with one of these: Which is apparently one of the most silent around, but it requires maintaining a siphon and isn't likely to work well with waves. I'm not positive I'm going to end up with a wavebox, or pseudo waves with vortechs, but I don't want to limit myself to never having them. I think I'd rather drill (or have drilled) the back than the bottom, allowing for a shorter box. My current tank has a durso standpipe, and, while not loud, it's not terribly silent... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robb in Austin Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 I'm using the BeanAnimal overflow on the 75 I am about to setup. I'm not sure but I think it will work with a wave, might check the RC thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisfowler99 Posted July 22, 2010 Author Share Posted July 22, 2010 I've read the RC thread almost from the start to the end. The consensus seems to be that it "might" work with a wave. Basically you'd have to set the siphon to be at the absolute minimum amount of water that could enter at any time. The wave action would produce higher flow periods and lower flow periods, which would mean that the open pipe would, at times, get a decent amount of flow, which could cause noise. Basically, it wouldn't fail, but it wouldn't be the most silent either. Though, with a wave, a silent overflow isn't necessarily assured with any setup, now that I consider it. It's still the way I'm leaning. I love the overall concept. I'm a little concerned about setting it up with eurobracing. I'll have to have the box extend out far enough that I can work within it to setup the pipes, etc... But I'm still curious about other ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadodge Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 if i do another tank this is the kinda overflow ill hv axcept it will be on the back of the tank and the grille grate will be the back of the tank. It will be the full lenght of the tank and have atleast 4 returns to sump. Just makes tank aquascaping easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisfowler99 Posted July 22, 2010 Author Share Posted July 22, 2010 Doing that kind of return externally was my original goal. The cost of having the grate inserted on a glass tank is somewhat prohibitive. On acrylic you can just cut the slots, but I don't want go acrylic. Also there is some skimming benefit to the internal (without grills), though it concerns me about fish getting in. All sorts of stuff to consider and think about...yeesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadodge Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 cut out the back glass and rplace it with 1/2" black PVC sheet its easy. Just cut out silicone and remove or just cut silicone and bust it out. Either way no big deal. Sealing it back is easy. u can leave teh rim around the top of the tank that away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisfowler99 Posted July 22, 2010 Author Share Posted July 22, 2010 cut out the back glass and rplace it with 1/2" black PVC sheet its easy. Just cut out silicone and remove or just cut silicone and bust it out. Either way no big deal. Sealing it back is easy. u can leave teh rim around the top of the tank that away. Cutting out a section of 1/2" glass on the back doesn't sound easy to me... I know it adds around $400 to the cost through AGE. I'd love to have it, but I wouldn't want to do it myself...and paying $400 extra for it...sheesh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadodge Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 i understand, if this is gonna be ur dream tank the $400 is not that big an issue. Yes its $400 but if ur not happy with it then its worth the extra. Being a new tank i wouldnt mess with knockn out the back glass either. Cant wait to see the new build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robb in Austin Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 I know it adds around $400 to the cost through AGE. I'd love to have it, but I wouldn't want to do it myself...and paying $400 extra for it...sheesh... That does seem a bit high for a little cut out but given the cost of their tanks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisfowler99 Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 I know it adds around $400 to the cost through AGE. I'd love to have it, but I wouldn't want to do it myself...and paying $400 extra for it...sheesh... Yeah. I'm still working on justifying the cost of just the tank to myself. LOL. $400 in addition hurts my head. That does seem a bit high for a little cut out but given the cost of their tanks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 this may work http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=202480&st=40&p=2331267entry2331267 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadodge Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 thats cool too, it'd nicer to have a bulkhead at either end of the corrogated pipe, thats pretty neat. Buy grey PVC instead of white and be a little disguysed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisfowler99 Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 this may work http://www.nano-reef...7 What's funny about this one is that it looks like he ended up making an external version of the one I put a picture of in my first post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadodge Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 yes it does, it will be nice either way u go, when are u gonna try and get new tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisfowler99 Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 yes it does, it will be nice either way u go, when are u gonna try and get new tank? Somewhere between "any day now" and "a few months from now." Two things I really need to do are to clean up my office (where the tank is) and figure out my complete strategy for the new tank. The new tank is going right where the old tank is...and I really want to start over with new rocks (probably Marco dry rock). So I'm starting to consider the idea of trying to set things up in my office so I can move the existing tank about 5' to the left and be able to setup the new tank and have it running when I transfer the existing livestock and coral. Otherwise I have to have the rock completely cycled elsewhere and then do a massive changeover between the two. But the idea of trying to move a tank 5' to the left is overwhelming. And the idea of actually cleaning up my office may be even worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadodge Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 ya, if the tank can be lifted all at once(stand and all), u can use the movers like Hydro used to move it. Makes it easy. I dont know how the stand is built. If i saw it in person i might could give u an idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisfowler99 Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 Stand was built by me and should be way overbuilt...but the idea of trying to move it all as a unit just sounds crazy. And it's on carpet...which probably makes it worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadodge Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 if its carpet underneath the stand (no bottom), u could take a porta pwr and lift it and put caster plates underneath each end and just roll it outta the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooric Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 If the weight of your system is less than 3200lbs you can just put some Magic Sliders underneath it. You could also drain some of your water to make it easier to move. They sell these all over the place (Target, Home Depot, etc.). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisfowler99 Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 It's definitely under 3200 lbs...I'd put it at around 1000 lbs...with magic sliders, the catch is lifting it enough to get the sliders under it...well...for any of the methods. I could pull about 20 gallons from the tank and a good bit more from the sump to lighten the load a lot. I could pull more than 20 gallons if I started pulling rock as well. Which may be the best option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooric Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Luckily you only need to lift the tank around 1" to slide these under. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadodge Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 those may work fine, its worth a shot, And if u can remove 15G from display that 123lbs and the sump 20G thats 165lbs so a total of 288lbs, that would lighten the load a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisfowler99 Posted July 24, 2010 Author Share Posted July 24, 2010 The wife suggested a crowbar to lift each corner enough to put the magic sliders under. So now I only need to buy magic sliders and a crowbar and remove 300ish lbs of water and rock. Oh...and clean up the office enough to move the tank. Oh...and build a rig to hold the lights that are currently suspended from the ceiling. Hmm...it's gonna be a while before I need to worry about what kind of overflow I need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadodge Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 CROWBAR....ok, u can buy a cheap portapower at Harbor Freight Tools and lift one whole end of the tank up at once as high as u want with whatever amount of weight u want. Then when ur done just sell the portapower or return it 4 a refund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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