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Email sent on Tunze Osmo and AC JR. -Erik

Yep prairewaterfoulhunts.com, what a name.

Anyone get theirs in?

400 watts, maybe on a 30" deep tank, you should really stick with 250... A 250 HQI (double ended) would probably fair close to the effectiveness of about 350w.?. 150, no way. Especially if, and when you want to do some sps. I would really look for a 250... As far as actinics, I doubt you would be able to fit 4 in your canopy with the halides, especially pendants. You may want to do some retros...

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150.00 in san antonio, let me know. 100 for charter members.

Has anyone yet received theirs?

I will tell you this. I ordered a frag from an online retailer this past Friday. I filled out the order form and hit submit. My order came to 80.00 I wrote the company because another friend wanted a frag of the same thing I was getting, and additional 35 dollars was all that had to be added, bringing my total to 115. Saturday morning we checked our account, and more money than 115 was missing. Approximately 195 was gone (the original 80 + 115). We were not told by the seller anything about their merchant with holding the original 80, while the total order of 115 was processed. The 80 is still missing from her account, and she bought be beer on Friday, which gave us an overdraft fee. We also received an overdraft for the funds that were "on hold" by their merchant. Essentially, the merchant has us "pending transaction" which has not yet cleared up. Now my poor gf is 77 in the hole, and the total that this 115 dollar order has costed us 280. We are in the process of getting these funds taken care of, and the retailer has stressed to us that he is sorry for his merchants actions, although my pain stems from the fact that nothing was said to us prior to. I could have had more money put into her account to cover this so no overdraft would have occured, but the fact remains that nothing was stated to either her or I about this until we found it out ourselves. The moral? Make sure your order is complete while you fill out the order now form, as that money is processed by the retailer's merchant account. Any changes made past that point can come back to bite you! I will not flame this guy or his company, as other people I know have ordered from him and had no problems. Ours stemmed from being nice and offering to split shipping with a friend, and in turn making a one man operation more money. Unfortunately, we had a bad experience, just be wary as each place does things differently.

I have had success ordering fish from Live Aquaria.

I will agree with that, as most of them die VERY fast in captivity, mainly . The way I saw it though was like this. The store had it, and it was in a small "holding" tank if you will. I bought it in hoping to save it's life. I would not order one, no. Call around to see if someone has one and SAVE IT! <-- That is my problem when I go to fish stores, but I have saved alot of fish from crappy deaths! Also, I would like to add that I have an insane (to most) amount of flow (the tangs LOVEEE it) in my tank, and although heavily stocked, I have a MUCH larger skimmer than needed which helps keep the water oxygenated enough to keep him/her/it happy. I also have two yellow tangs that can keep it's temper under control (for now). I am planning on a much lengthier tank here in the future, designed as a Tang raceway, but that is a ways out!

From what I have read 2-3" per year. Of course, this is probably dependent on feeding habits etc.

I love tangs in general. They look my straight in the eye when I am at their level. They are super curious, and every time you rescape their environment, they LOVE to make a racetrack out of it. I always design my aquascape for my fish, not for me. In fact, I find that when I am trying to create cool spots for the tangs to wiz in and out of, my scape looks cooler than if I had designed it for my own personal viewing pleasure!

You could get a juvenile clown tang...

Honestly, from a completely nuetral standpoint, I feel that Turbo is entirely correct as well. Intent does not make it alright. There has been alot of speculation and no one has posted any links or anything to something that could substantially prove that what is being done is cruel and inhumane. This is a debate which touches us each differently, and do different degrees as GKarshens stated, so it's a matter of feeling. What I mean by all of this is, people in general will feel very right-wing about SOMETHING in the world. I know personally that I hate alot of local fish stores for not asking people what fish they have in their tanks and if it is not going to live a "happy" life, they should refuse to sell it. However, they probably would view that as suicide, because the last thing a customer wants is to be told no. I love this hobby, and everything about it, but ill fated choices for stocking tanks have plagued everyone at some point. I too like James would like to know how many sharks will die there, and at what point will someone open their eyes and realize that it is a bad choice.

Buy a skimmer. You will have a much more pleasant experience with keeping your tank. Also, add some good random flow with powerheads, Hydor Koralia is a phenomenal choice IMHO.