innate1 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I know MAAST does one but most of those folks are in SA so I was wondering if there was any interest in a similar program here. I'd be willing to start off with some green zoa's. Anyone interested in sponsering them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Dena Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I would like to give it a shot, but most would probably need the rules...as easy as you can list them. I really have tried to follow the MAAST one, but it's confusing. Dena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cool Breeze Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I tried to read it one time and got confused. I need a version for dummies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Capt. Obvious Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I tried to read it one time and got confused. I need a version for dummies. amen to that... willing participant though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ACampbell Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Banking frags with your close friends is good to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysanford Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 We are up for it. As long as everything is set up before hand and agreed to. Don't want to start a stimulus program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill B Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I will ditto what just about everyone else is saying. I think it is an intriguing idea but we just gotta know the rules. My biggest question was always in the terminology. Apparently there is an original donor who gives something to a 'sponsor'. Then there is a list of people who wait for the sponsor to grow it out and pay forward a frag of it to the first person on the list. Who does the same thing. Right so far? Do those the sponsors continue to frag out their gift, or is it one and done, discretionary etc.?? But it also seems there must a some sort of limit to how many frags one person can sponsor initially and possibly how many 'waiting lists' you can be on so that a few people don't dominate the whole system for months. Lastly as I recall there is also a published list so everyone knows what to expect, and what is offered. Is the administrator willing to do that? I also suspect there are a few things I haven't considered. Inquiring minds want to know (and participate) Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innate1 Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 I guess this is where we would hammer that stuff out. I'm a pretty simple guy, so I would just keep it simple. What rules are really needed? I mean there are and will always be people who use and abuse systems but are they the people you meet here? I don't think so. Everyone I've come into contact with has been generous and giving. So take a coral that interests you, grow coral and offer a frag to someone else. I don't see the need to make it difficult. Maybe I'm wrong. I just love trading coral so I get to meet new people and see ya'lls wonderful tanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Capt. Obvious Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I guess this is where we would hammer that stuff out. I'm a pretty simple guy, so I would just keep it simple. What rules are really needed? I mean there are and will always be people who use and abuse systems but are they the people you meet here? I don't think so. Everyone I've come into contact with has been generous and giving. So take a coral that interests you, grow coral and offer a frag to someone else. I don't see the need to make it difficult. Maybe I'm wrong. I just love trading coral so I get to meet new people and see ya'lls wonderful tanks. ^ THIS there are not really "enough" of us to constitute waiting lists and the like.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysanford Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Maybe we can figure out all the rules at the upcoming meeting? Also, if there needs to be someone responsible for handling all the duties that come along with this program, we would be willing to lend a helping hand. This is a great community and starting something like this here would be awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innate1 Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 That's a great idea. Let's hug it out, I mean talk it out during the meeting. I just look at it as another way to foster community and get to know each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I can't make the March meeting, but I'm very much interested in doing this locally. My main problem with the MAAST program was that only two of us from up here signed on, and driving four hours round trip for a frag seemed a little over the top to me. ; ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ACampbell Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I will not endorse an official program, but please fee free to organize an unofficial pay it forward program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishypets Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Word to the wise, make sure you dip any and all sps/lps to avoid the spread of STD's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmanning Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Word to the wise, make sure you dip any and all sps/lps to avoid the spread of STD's. Ditto on the dipping. When it comes to soft corals and LPS you can use Lugol's iodine to dip them in ------you'll get rid off some pests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innate1 Posted February 27, 2009 Author Share Posted February 27, 2009 Didn't know we needed an endorsement to help each other out and foster a community. Who knew. Sorry for making waves; pun intended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ACampbell Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Didn't know we needed an endorsement to help each other out and foster a community. Who knew. Sorry for making waves; pun intended In other words, I will not enforce rules. Participate in this program at your own risk. I accept no liability. Now that that's out of the way, please continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamp Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 (edited) Edited February 27, 2009 by Hamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamp Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I guess it would be a lot easier if there was a way to keep track. I think there should be a limit to how many corals someone has accepted, without fragging them and offering to others as they grow. That would be all the rules and regulations that are needed. If someone wants your coral, and you can look and see that they have taken 5 corals off the forum, and killed 4 and havnt fragged the other one in 7 months, then give it to someone else. Should work. I think it would be a great way to get people into the hobby and set up with really nice tanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejaustin Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I'm not likely to participate in any kind of frag swap (since I don't have coral and plan to have only like xenia and GSP in the foreseeable future), but I'd be happy to help. I'm handy when it comes to technical stuff. I could set up a database to track however y'all want this to work and web pages to display and enter information. I don't want to set up forums and all that, since we have that here, but if there are other things that would help, I'd be glad to do what I can. ej Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caferacermike Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I'm all for the old school method. Simply put, make plans via PM or a phone call to visit as many other reefers in your lifetime as possible. Bring a little of what you got and beg/persuade them for a little bit of what they have. I've not yet been able to understand why anyone would need a super complicated system to do that. Actually my best gut theory is that people have a fear or or lack of social skills and look for a quick way to hop on. At least once a week I try to visit somebody elses tank and either trade frags or just pay a little cash for them. The last meeting we had, another reefing family was beyond kind and brought a huge cooler full of frags for everyone to take home. There were at least 3 frags per person. So better than organizing a complicated method that might take months to pay out, just network. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kkiel02 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 (edited) Once I get some zoas to take off I wouldnt mind trading, etc. First I need to get the frags though lol. Unless someone wants a frag of clove polyps. I think that meetings would be a good place as more people would be there. Edited February 28, 2009 by Kkiel02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innate1 Posted February 28, 2009 Author Share Posted February 28, 2009 I'm not likely to participate in any kind of frag swap (since I don't have coral and plan to have only like xenia and GSP in the foreseeable future), but I'd be happy to help. I'm handy when it comes to technical stuff. I could set up a database to track however y'all want this to work and web pages to display and enter information. I don't want to set up forums and all that, since we have that here, but if there are other things that would help, I'd be glad to do what I can.ej You could participate with xenia and gsp. do you have any yet? I'll start you off when your ready. the database would be cool not my forte, but when you meet people like the mannings that have so much knowledge and are so giving you just want to help pay some of that back. See a need meet a need. LMK when you want your xenia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejaustin Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 You could participate with xenia and gsp. do you have any yet? I'll start you off when your ready. the database would be cool not my forte, but when you meet people like the mannings that have so much knowledge and are so giving you just want to help pay some of that back. See a need meet a need. LMK when you want your xenia. How very kind of you! I'm not quite ready yet. The tank is still cycling after a crash. It will probably be a couple weeks before I'm ready to think about checking parameters to see if the tank is ready for new life. In the meantime, I'll just let it run and feed the 4 surviving nassarius snails. (A couple of them were cruising the surface under the lighter earlier today, so I'm taking that as a sign that they need a bit of food.) One thing I heard early on is that if you do something suddenly in this hobby, it's generally the wrong thing. So I plan on taking lots of time this time around. I'll send you a PM when the tank seems ready. Thanks so much. ej Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don duncan Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 im up for the tade of frags and pay it forward. I currently have plenty of kena, anthilia, xenia, gsp, green zoas, some eagle eye, red zoas, red cap I am looking for some interesting zoas, like nuclear green, armor of god, fire and ice. things grow pretty fast in my tank. Just got some frags of metor shower, strawberry green monti, superman monti. once they grow I will be looking for trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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