victoly Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Genius marketing on tritons part. Sells you al-po4 remover, tells you your al is too high lol GFO would get rid of arsenic as well, although I have serious doubts you have arsenic in your tank. Do you see why I dont like ICP now? They got you chasing things that might be real, but cant be proven! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhart032 Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 minute ago, victoly said: Genius marketing on tritons part. Sells you al-po4 remover, tells you your al is too high lol GFO would get rid of arsenic as well, although I have serious doubts you have arsenic in your tank. Do you see why I dont like ICP now? They got you chasing things that might be real, but cant be proven! I can see this clearly now, so what are your thought on dosing the other products they recommend? its like $260.00 in chems just to get where they think i need to be. Now that i think about it, things were actually doing pretty good starting to color up, until i started to run the AL99. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoly Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 IMO they overcomplicate. In order of importance. Temperature, Dissolved Oxygen, Alkalinity, Salinity, PAR, Calcium, Phosphate, Nitrogen, and Magnesium are the only things you need to worry about. Not all can be monitored in real time, but IMO there arent reliable ways of measuring or taking action on nearly anything else. I think ICP might be OK for presence/absence, but I dont think there is consensus among experts in that analytical field that believe ICP-OES is accurate enough to make decisions on for trending. Just my unsolicited 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhart032 Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 I killed the AL99 reactor and will continue to run the Carbon and Rowa to see if things get a little better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhart032 Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 Do you think i should use some sort of chelating agent to detoxify the al? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoly Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 metasorb, polyfill or water changes would be the route i took. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhart032 Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 I had some Poly fill. i put it in the bubble trap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolt Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 2 hours ago, mhart032 said: You know what, I bet its Triton AL99 its an aluminum based phosphate remover. Bingo! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhart032 Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 I have been reading up on heavy metals and effects on coral tissue, there are a few papers written regarding the subject and they all led to mortality in most cases 100% in just over a matter of days. hopefully it changes quickly in my system and i can get it straightened out. This makes me think about @eddie-maximus when he had the issue, im not sure that we ever discussed heavy metals, i knw we discussed the marine pure blocks causing nitrate to drop, but he had both nitrate and phosphates, could be the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mhart032 Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 Quick update my nitrate has been pretty stable the last 2 days at 5 which im ok with, but my Po4 is rising, i mixed up 50gals more or less of saltwater and the apex is doing the water change right now, ive cut out the pellets and feeding mysis in the morning rinsed with rodi water, and still feeding the rods at night, still running carbon and rowaphos, if it continues to climb ill kick on the GFO reactor. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhart032 Posted March 15, 2020 Author Share Posted March 15, 2020 Ok, so the water change only brought down the P04 to .17 ( hanna) that was roughly 30gals auto top off, i left 20 gals off the auto water change as backup, but i decided to vac the sand out in the corners where the detritus tends to build up, as well as the sump ( which was already pretty clean). P04 is down to .07 ( Hanna) with the added GFO, nitrates are still holding at roughly 3 ( Elos) i did add the trace elements the ICP test suggested, but i did only 1/2 amounts due to the water change. Triton trace elements are not cheap, but with the little amount needed its really not that bad. The LPS little that i have have responded favourably i think more to the trace elements less to the water change. the SPS seem to be holding where they are no more bleaching, the anemone didnt like the changes and deflated for a couple days, but seems to recovered well, actually better. its starting to bubble up vs before being longer and fat. Im not sure how much this was water chemistry or the radion G5 upgrade. Par is the same after checked with the Seneye Par/Per meter ( glad i didn't sell this thing a while back) im running the radions at 70% 10 inches off the water. ill give it a couple more weeks to see if the sps start to color back up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoly Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 I think you're in good shape now. just make sure those nitrates stay detectable, theyre already kind of on the low side. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolt Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Don't let the nitrate get too low or dinos will kick in .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhart032 Posted March 15, 2020 Author Share Posted March 15, 2020 2 hours ago, jolt said: Don't let the nitrate get too low or dinos will kick in .... I thought about dosing more nitrate to keep it up as well. I think i will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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