sifuentes31 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 So i got into a discussion with some guy in San Antonio about both Rowa and GFO. He was so adamant about using Rowa Phos and didn't want to hear about anyone using anything else. For me i told him the HCGFO was better because that is what i have been using for 2+ years and has worked great for me . Still seemed like he didn't want to hear it. He also wanted to see studies done to show the effectiveness of the HCGFO. I just told him that that's what i've been using and it's worked great for me. So how do you guys feel about both and any Pros or Cons on using both of the products. Just curious.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I know that Don Duncan and Wizard prefer Rowa Phos and they had some amazing SPS tanks. I was using HCGFO but switched back to the regular GFO to try to compare the difference and see if it's worth the extra cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenver Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I use Phosguard in my reactor and I love it, after almost 2 weeks my algae is almost gone, red slime algae was gone after 5 days Sent from my SPH-L900 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifuentes31 Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 I've also use purigen and it seemed to work but still fell back on using HCGFO. Bio was the one to turn me on to this stuff. And now he's wrestling Gators.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madsalt Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I was using BRS GFO and switched to Phosguard because I was out of GFO and at the time could get the Phosguard locally. I was not having the same results as the GFO so I switched back and have been happy that I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifuentes31 Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 Yup also used Phosgaurd on my 29 but didn't do crap for me. So how long will the Rowa last in lightly stock tank. I have personally never used the stuff so just wanted to know how others have faired with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstarwiggle Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I use rowa phos. I tendxto think it works great. It is my phos phosphate media to be introduced to. So no complaints here and problaby will stick with. I have some sps in my AIO. IMO I think it holds up very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstarwiggle Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I change rowa phos about every two months. But it probably could go longer. I use very little in a reactor and it tumbles nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SChrisEV Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 The primary CON I have with the HCGFO is I have to change it... once in a while. Other than that it works great, if they could come up with a SELF Changing solution it would be PERFECT, well for me. I have not tried any of the others, so I'm also interested in seeing the feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifuentes31 Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 Intrested in Feed Back also. but i think all media needs to be changed once in a while. Excluding Biopellets.....Love this stuff..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+brian.srock Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I use phosguard as well since I can dump it in my reactor and go. With other media I had to deal with the dust and precleaning. I change out the media on the 1st of the month. I do not use a skimmer and have a large stock and feed daily. I also get my media from Amazon for way cheaper than the LFS http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000255PHG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i02?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SChrisEV Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Intrested in Feed Back also. but i think all media needs to be changed once in a while. Excluding Biopellets.....Love this stuff..... UHM... I guess a bad attempt at a joke. I'm saying the stuff works well, I just need to change it as needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifuentes31 Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 Lol duh! Yeah I caught it afterwards. Ha! Too much in deep thought and bugged by that other guy who thought I was nuts for using GFO. found out later he is a store owner in SA. So makes sense now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogdan Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I have tried them all: rowaphos, high capacity, phosguard, phosban, you name it. Nothing could break the GHA outbreak until I found 4X Phosphate remover. One spoon of that beauty starved the algae in a few days. This stuff is expensive but I regenerate it and use it several times. That has been my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leakytree Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I have tried them all: rowaphos, high capacity, phosguard, phosban, you name it. Nothing could break the GHA outbreak until I found 4X Phosphate remover. One spoon of that beauty starved the algae in a few days. This stuff is expensive but I regenerate it and use it several times. That has been my experience. Can you share a link to the 4x phosphate remover? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jconforti Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 let me get that for you sir................... http://lmgtfy.com/?q=4x+phosphate+remover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+brian.srock Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 let me get that for you sir................... http://lmgtfy.com/?q=4x+phosphate+remover Fail. Is this what you are talking about Bogdan? http://www.amazon.com/Red-Sea-Fish-Pharm-ARE22204/dp/B004QYC6PS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394137329&sr=8-1&keywords=4x+phosphate+remover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+brian.srock Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Nevermind this is what he is talking about http://www.amazon.com/Reef-PO4x4-Phosphate-Remover-500ml/dp/B005EZ0KM4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1394137580&sr=8-1&keywords=po4x4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leakytree Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Is the 4x basically hcgfo covered in a polymer? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I think that's what the article linked above from reefbuilders was implying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifuentes31 Posted March 7, 2014 Author Share Posted March 7, 2014 Wow read up on that stuff... It looks Potent! Defiently going to try some in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Did someone find something distinctive in its claims of been that much more efficient then gfo? All I have seen up to this point is hearsay and claims but no official evidence or research. Would love to use it but the lack of data makes me hesitant. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sascha D. Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 So i got into a discussion with some guy in San Antonio about both Rowa and GFO. He was so adamant about using Rowa Phos and didn't want to hear about anyone using anything else. For me i told him the HCGFO was better because that is what i have been using for 2+ years and has worked great for me . Still seemed like he didn't want to hear it. He also wanted to see studies done to show the effectiveness of the HCGFO. I just told him that that's what i've been using and it's worked great for me. So how do you guys feel about both and any Pros or Cons on using both of the products. Just curious.... I can't say anything about these two products because I haven't used them, but I have used Phosguard. It didn't do anything in my tank in the four months that I used it. Proof? Cyano Storms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenver Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 And in my tank I used Phosguard and within 5 days all my cyano is gone Sent from my SPH-L900 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leakytree Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I agree with Ty. It seems like a product that needs more testing and research to back up its claims. Almost to good to be true. However, on my new tank I am tempted to try it out. I mean in this hobby what's $40 and a couple of weeks? Phosguard became a never ending cycle for me. It would rapidly drop my phosphates killing the algae...that would then dissolve back into phosphates to strengthen more algae growth. I could see it it being used early to knock out algae, but it exhausted rapidly and it was difficult to tell when it needed to be refreshed. I found it was impossible to mange long term. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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